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Published 20 hours ago • verified publisher icon lightning-power-users

Provide in-app warning and about seed / back up/ fund recovery

Open PierreRochard opened this issue 5 years ago • 9 comments

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PierreRochard avatar Jun 16 '19 15:06 PierreRochard

Related to #360?

I would like to backup my stuff, just not sure how...

marsrobertson avatar Jun 18 '19 12:06 marsrobertson

@marsrobertson for now I would recommend using your operating system's backup solution (time machine on macos)

PierreRochard avatar Jun 18 '19 18:06 PierreRochard

I've never done Time Machine before, seems like an overkill to me.

Every 1-2 years I'm wiping machine clean, I'm getting quite used to setting everything from scratch.

From LND Slack channel: https://lightningcommunity.slack.com/archives/C6BKD3RKR/p1560860393229700

marsrobertson avatar Jun 18 '19 20:06 marsrobertson

Sorry I can't support your use-case. I always assume that the user is backing up all their user data. The wallet seed is stored in the user's system keychain and the channel.backup file is in the user's data directory.

PierreRochard avatar Jun 19 '19 00:06 PierreRochard

Help me locate it

KeychainAccess screenshot:

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In my programming projects: serverless architecture.

In my personal device choice: hardwareless architecture.

Treating hardware as disposable commodity, keeping all the data in the cloud.

The only thing I need to remember when wiping my machine clean is to backup is .ssh for GitHub, GitLab, Bitbucket credentials, but because of serverless I cannot really lock myself out from a remote machine that has password login disabled.

Various users have different backup strategies, I’d like to stick to simple, recommended, default way. Linux and Windows users do not have Time Machine - what about them?

PS. My attitude to life: brainless architecture. The brain requires energy, per KG of mass it is the most consuming organ of a human body. If I don't have to think, it's better for my survival strategy.

marsrobertson avatar Jun 19 '19 08:06 marsrobertson

Search for lnd in the Keychain app.

Node Launcher is for desktop and laptop computer users, for servers I would recommend using docker because most servers don't have a GUI / Qt.

I think any of these would by default backup the user's home directory: https://www.tecmint.com/linux-system-backup-tools/

PierreRochard avatar Jun 19 '19 11:06 PierreRochard

Obviously

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marsrobertson avatar Jun 19 '19 17:06 marsrobertson

Does anyone know where to find the "user's system keychain" on Windows so I can backup my seed?

I tried the Certificate Manager (certmgr.msc) and searched for "lnd" but nothing came up. I then manually expanded each folder to look for anything that might be associated with Node Launcher but nothing obvious jumped out at me.

sixside avatar Nov 06 '19 01:11 sixside

I found them with the Credential Manager tool, however it's not possible to actually view the seed data.

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The important data is masked out and there doesn't seem to be a way to reveal the important info.

Any ideas?

sixside avatar Nov 06 '19 02:11 sixside