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None of the plugins will load in Reaper (v.1.6.1 & 1.6.2 – macOS)

Open lossius opened this issue 2 years ago • 10 comments

I've had problems with installing v.1.6.1 and just tried installing v.1.6.2 and get the same problem there: None of the plugins load in Reaper.

Screenshot 2022-06-20 at 17 52 09

Method to reproduce:

  • Start Reaper with a new empty project
  • Create a new track. (I also increased the number of channels on the track to 16)
  • Click the FX button
  • Within that window, click Add. From the list in the left panel, I chose Developer > AALTO, select all plugins listed and add them all.
  • Result: All of them have a similar error message to what is displayed above.

Next, I tried to load the standalone application found in /Applications/SPARTA/HOSIRR.app. This resulted in a crash. I have uploaded the crash log here:

https://gist.github.com/lossius/8a4de8ac73789969ca6bbb8798050434

MacBook Pro (q6 inch, 2019) 2,4 GHz 8-Core Intel Core i9 macOS Monterey 12.4 Reaper v6.61 - June 17 2022

Cleaning out all plugins named sparta_XXX in /Library/Audio/Plugins/VST and then re-installing v. 1.6.0 brings them all back to life.

In all cases I have used the (10.13+, x86-64) - (recommended for Intel CPUs) installers.

lossius avatar Jun 20 '22 16:06 lossius

hmm, could you please also try the ARM+x86 versions?

leomccormack avatar Jun 20 '22 16:06 leomccormack

Sure! I just downloaded the ARM version of 1.6.2, cleaned out the plugins again, and installed. Now they all load in Reaper. So this is a problem with the Intell installer only.

lossius avatar Jun 20 '22 16:06 lossius

Interesting! Then this is little bit weird, since 1.6.1 and 1.6.2 have relatively very minor changes. Although, I have noticed that MacOS 12+, (even with Intel chips), have started to become less happy with these intel specific optimised versions. (hence why this was my first suggestion :)

So... Since the future of Mac seems to be ARM, and with strange intel optimisations issues creeping in, I guess I will need to phase out these x86-only versions in the future. I've avoided doing this so far, since there are some performance gains to be had still, but if it means worse compatibility, then it may be the only way.

leomccormack avatar Jun 20 '22 17:06 leomccormack

I have to say I've encountered the same issue with 1.6.1 and 1.6.2 x86-64 releases on macOS Big Sur 11.6.5 while 1.6.0 works fine (I am using notarised REAPER v6.59).

rapolasd avatar Jun 23 '22 15:06 rapolasd

I have to say I've encountered the same issue with 1.6.1 and 1.6.2 x86-64 releases on macOS Big Sur 11.6.5 while 1.6.0 works fine (I am using notarised REAPER v6.59).

Thanks for letting me know. Do the x86+ARM versions also work for you though?

leomccormack avatar Jun 23 '22 21:06 leomccormack

I have to say I've encountered the same issue with 1.6.1 and 1.6.2 x86-64 releases on macOS Big Sur 11.6.5 while 1.6.0 works fine (I am using notarised REAPER v6.59).

Thanks for letting me know. Do the x86+ARM versions also work for you though?

Yes, they do.

rapolasd avatar Jun 24 '22 14:06 rapolasd

OK, thanks! I won't be able to look into this right now, so I'll leave this issue open in the meantime in case it helps others. I've also now changed the 1.6.1 and 1.6.2 release pages to say that the x86+ARM versions are recommended for newer macOS versions.

leomccormack avatar Jun 24 '22 14:06 leomccormack

Hello, I don't know if that could help. I have the same issue with 1.61 and 1.62 (x86-64 version ). I’m on MacOS Mojave 10.14.6. MacBook Pro (15-inch, 2017), 2,9 GHz Intel Core i7. The x86+ARM version seems to work for me too.

NicolaGiannini avatar Jul 06 '22 02:07 NicolaGiannini

For the record – I have the same issue on MacOS Mojave 10.14.6. I've just installed the the x86+ARM version (even though it's listed as being for OS11 and above), however, and everything seems to be OK so far.

michaeltrommer avatar Jul 23 '22 19:07 michaeltrommer

Ah: not completely OK. The plug-ins (ARM version, though I'm on Intel 10.14.6) show up within an older Reaper project that they've already been inserted into, but If I try to load them into a new project they don't appear on the list of available plug-ins.

michaeltrommer avatar Aug 06 '22 17:08 michaeltrommer

HI, I will not open another topic, I think I fall into one of the cases reported above. I installed MacOS (10.13+, x86-64) plugins on my MacBook Pro 10.15 Catalina (2.3 GHz Intel Core i5 quad core) at link they are all in the /Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/VST/ folder of my note book, but my Reaper v5.987/64 won't open them. Maybe I need to uninstall the plugins and upload another version?

enricofrancioni avatar Feb 06 '23 16:02 enricofrancioni

future releases will now be x86-64 and ARM combos, which don't exhibit this mysterious issue.

leomccormack avatar Nov 21 '23 18:11 leomccormack