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Sorry to summon you @jaraco, but can you think of a condition that might have caused this with an empty `setup.py`?

That was done in https://github.com/pypa/setuptools/pull/2608.

Making warnings visible in pip is not an effective means of alerting package authors about deprecations and upcoming removals. These tend to go unnoticed in what is usually an extremely...

Paging @pypa/build-committers and @pypa/pip-committers for their input.

> The reason for this is that the only means for backends to pass data to the frontend is via stdout/stderr. [...] But the PEP 517 interface is not standard...

> There's no requirement for frontends to use a library. See https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0517/#build-environment. And certainly there's no requirement to use the specific library `pep517`. That's the point that I was making,...

> I'm confused. But it's not that important. I suggest that we avoid speculating until someone proposes a precise mechanism that a PEP 517 backend can use to signal there's...

> advocating Merely suggested ;P