[pt] Rule “por isso existe(m)” → “existindo”

[marcoagpinto]

Hello @ricardojosehlima

I believe I already wrote about this rule in the forum weeks or months ago, but here it comes again.

Look at the sentence: "Os bits são o nível mais baixo existente nos computadores, por isso existem em maior quantidade."

“por isso + Verb_two_forms_possible” → “verb_gerund”.

This would simplify the writing, and I would like to test it to see the results.

Do you have a good name ID, rule name and suggestion message for such a rule?

Thank you!

[ricardojosehlima]

Hi! Would this apply to any verb? I thought "Eles chegaram atrasados, por isso estão aqui." --> "Eles chegaram atrasados, estando aqui" is not the same thing.

[marcoagpinto]

@ricardojosehlima

Hello dear brother!

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You are back!

I am sure it won't apply to all verbs, that is why I want to test it against 600 000 sentences and remove the verbs it doesn't apply to, or, if easier, add only the “good” verbs after the testing.

Thanks!

[ricardojosehlima]

Haha, lots of extra work here this week, will be back to normal only next week. Ok for testing it, it is a good idea.

[marcoagpinto]

Ricardo!

Next week, when you have the time, please suggest a good rule ID, rule name and suggestion message for this rule.

Thanks!

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[marcoagpinto]

@ricardojosehlima

Hello!

Are you busy?

Any ideas for a rule ID, rule name and suggestion message?

Thanks!

[ricardojosehlima]

Hi, sorry for the delay (they'll become more frequent, unfortunately, due to the new obligations in my job) rule_ID = existir_simplificação rule name = Simplificação de construção com verbo existir suggestion = Você pode usar a forma no gerúndio nesse caso

[marcoagpinto]

@ricardojosehlima

!!!!

I am just finishing the rule, and it works with all verbs.

So, we will need a better rule ID and rule name.

I have created a “provisory” name for it during the tests.

    <!-- POR ISSO EXISTE/EXISTEM existindo -->
    <rule id='POR_ISSO_EXISTE_EXISTEM_EXISTINDO' name="Simplicar: Por isso existe/existem → existindo" type='style'>
      <!-- Created by Marco A.G.Pinto with Ricardo Joseh Lima suggestions, Portuguese rule 2022-08-15 (25-JUL-2022+) -->
      <!--
      Os bits são o nível mais baixo existente nos computadores, por isso existem em maior quantidade. → Os bits são o nível mais baixo existente nos computadores, existindo em maior quantidade.
      -->
      <pattern>
        <token>por
		  <exception scope='previous' postag_regexp='yes' postag='SENT_START|_QUOT|CS|RM|RN|RG|V.+'/>
		</token>
		<token>isso</token>
        <token postag='VMIP3.+' postag_regexp='yes'>
		  <exception scope='next' postag_regexp='yes' postag='VMG0000|_PUNCT|VMIP3.+|VMM02.+'/>
		  <exception scope='next' regexp='yes'>que|tanto</exception>
		</token>
      </pattern>
      <message>Esta perífrase poderá ser simplificada.</message>
      <suggestion><match no='3' postag='VMIP3.+' postag_regexp="yes" postag_replace='VMG0000'/></suggestion>
      <example correction="existindo">Os bits são o nível mais baixo existente nos computadores, <marker>por isso existem</marker> em maior quantidade.</example>
    </rule>

There is a false positive which I believe it happens because maybe I have an outdate added.txt in my Wikipedia tool folder: Esse político, acusado de corrupção, tem muito dinheiro e um bom advogado, por isso nada teme. (the verb "temer")

Portuguese (Portugal): 62 total matches
Portuguese (Portugal): ø0.00 rule matches per sentence
Portuguese (Portugal): 17356 input lines ignored (e.g. not between 10 and 300 chars or at least 4 tokens)

12.txt

Do you believe all is fine?

Thanks!

[marcoagpinto]

@ricardojosehlima

I have found a good ID and name for the rule and committed it: https://github.com/languagetool-org/languagetool/commit/8b00baaa420fc7be7609fae108c65ee3895de0e9

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[ricardojosehlima]

Hi, sorry for the delay. In the file there are sentences like O meio ambiente está sempre nos servindo com sua fonte de vida que não é inesgotável e por isso precisa de ajuda! where por isso comes after the conjunction "e". Here and in the other cases I think that the rule shouldn't apply.

As for the name of the rule name="Simplicar: Por isso + V. 3.ª Sing/Plural → V. Gerúndio" type='style'>

must be Simplificar, right?

[marcoagpinto]

Hello @ricardojosehlima

Thanks, I believe we have a good name for it.

I will fix the “e” conjunction at 5am, right now, I am very stressed… 😄 😄 😄 😄 😄

My life is an adventure… the things I can't say in public… 😄 😄 😄

Thank you very much!

[marcoagpinto]

@ricardojosehlima

I can't sleep, so I am back to the projects.

I have implemented the “e” conjunction: https://github.com/languagetool-org/languagetool/commit/2ff47a986671f4528dfe599d112ab77959d48f89

Before (with the latest nightly standalone and Wikipedia tools):

Portuguese (Portugal): 61 total matches
Portuguese (Portugal): 582235 total sentences considered
Portuguese (Portugal): ø0.00 rule matches per sentence

0_before_20220817.txt

After (with “e” removed):

Portuguese (Portugal): 40 total matches
Portuguese (Portugal): 582235 total sentences considered
Portuguese (Portugal): ø0.00 rule matches per sentence

1_after_20220817_removing_E.txt

There is a difference of 21 sentences without the “e”.

Are they all valid?

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Thank you, my dear brother!

[marcoagpinto]

If all is valid, tomorrow I will suggest a new rule which seems easy to implement and later a very powerful rule, which if we make it work, it will be a kind of breakthrough in grammar checking (I have it written down for months, like many others, and right now, I have the knowledge on how to code it).

[ricardojosehlima]

Hi, the rule is now fine! And I can't wait to know what this rule you've been working on makes!

[marcoagpinto]

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I will first open a ticket with a simple idea for a rule.

Meanwhile, while revising my thesis, I came up with more ideas for rules… lol 😄 😄 😄 😄 😄 😄 😄

Every little detail gives ideas for rules, this way the thesis will never be finished. 😄 😄