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kmatheussen
FR: Loading more than one sample into sample player (with number slider or equivalent to change playing sample)
Another one that sound a bit far-fetched, but is very interesting to me would be the ability to load multiple samples into the sample player and with the help of some kind of slider/number box (which can be automated) you can select which sample actually should play back the notes.
This allows for a lot of things, for example you could load multiple kicks into one sample player that you like and then still change your fav kick mid- or even end-production. (Basically collecting more than one good sound and going through your "fav" collection afterwards to pick the best one for the song.
Second, this allows for very high profile production techniques that are otherwise pretty difficult to accomplish. For example:
- Playing a melody and changing the sample while the melody is playing.
- Playing a loop and automate between different loaded loops, which then creates some kind of a "superloop" or "loop-mashup"
- Do this with different vocal-samples and you're in for a lot of fun for sure...
You can get very very fancy with this. D'n'B and Dubstep for example can't be done without this.
When I am right, this would not require very much to add, because all the time there is still only one sample playing. Radiums Sample Player would just need the ability to change the sample on the fly and load more than one sample at once into some kind of memory array. No need for multi-sampler stuff like keygroups or zones , deeper editing pages or whatever but still quite a huge improvement of the Players possibilities.
(Edit: Only the sample start and all other parameters obviously _must be synced to all samples, so no separate parameters for separate samples, but one parameter that is the same for all samples.) "seen" as one sample...Which again might even simplify this more...)_
Again this may or may not be easy to realize, depending on the flexibility and backend of the sample player code itself. But I am really interested in this because chances are high that this might be actually more on the easy side. And this is another one that is highly unusual but one of the top-features for a lot of people in Ableton Live for example.
I think this feature would be simple to implement too. It should be enough having an array of 256 slots for samples, and then use the slot pointed to by the effect "slot number", even when loading new sample. (it's a little bit more work than that, but not much).
Regarding zones, etc. a lot of things are actually supported already, since the sample player can play soundfonts, but there isn't interface for those things.
It should be enough having an array of 256 slots for samples, and then use the slot pointed to by the effect "slot number", even when loading new sample.
_Very_ good. That's more than enough that's needed for this.
Regarding zones, etc. a lot of things are actually supported already, since the sample player can play soundfonts, but there isn't interface for those things.
Oh, interesting. But for the techniques in question this really is unneccessary for now IMHO.
Hmm, it's probably necessary to have a small crossfade when switching sample while playing. If not there will be clicks. Now it starts to become complicated.
Not if the Attack/release settings are getting handled identically by all samples like if they were one and the same sample... There should be no clicks.. So no need for crossfade...
(A bit the same like when I automate sample start. There also would be heavy clicks when I don't adjust attack and release times. If I do, smooth as silk... No clicks whatsoever.)
Isn't the point about this that the sample is switched while a note is playing?
No. Think of it that way like when you automate the sample start. The note triggers the sample at that specific point in time. You can't change the sample position while a note is playing. You change the sample start and the next note triggers the sample at the new specified sample position.
With multiple samples it is the same thing. The note triggers the specified sample number. Then you change the sample number, and the next note triggers the specified _new_ sample that is linked to that number.
When you would like to have a "crossfade" effect, then you just enter a large amount of notes (like 32nd/or64th) in rapid succesion on the same key, like C4 for example, so that the sample point (or sample number) gets triggered faster/more often, but on the same note-pitch, which then sounds like some kind of crossfade effect. At least this is how I do it. But the note is _still_ the trigger.
Stumbled on this old thread. Just want to add that this would open the possibility for round-robin...
(FYI: http://www.musicradar.com/tuition/tech/how-to-avoid-the-machine-gun-effect-using-round-robin-sampling-632302 )