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Create a Logo for Jupyter RTC

Open echarles opened this issue 5 years ago • 19 comments

@ all / Please wait on the trademark committee answer before working or submitting on new proposal. We may close this and forget the idea.

There are plenty of ways to decline the Jupyter logo to highlight the realtime collaboration features we are building here.

The Jupyter logo source SVG can be found in the design repo.

e.g. alt text

Just comment on this issue with your SVG source file. I guess the comment with the more 👍 will be the official one.

echarles avatar Jul 17 '20 12:07 echarles

GitHub issue does not support SVG attachment... We accept PNG assuming you will ship the SVG format if you are selected... Good luck!

echarles avatar Apr 14 '21 08:04 echarles

Proposal 1 created by @eleonorecharles jupyter-rtc_1

echarles avatar Apr 14 '21 08:04 echarles

Proposal 2 created by @eleonorecharles jupyter-rtc_2

echarles avatar Apr 14 '21 08:04 echarles

Proposal 3 created by @eleonorecharles jupyter-rtc_3

echarles avatar Apr 14 '21 08:04 echarles

Proposal 4 created by @eleonorecharles jupyter-rtc_4

echarles avatar Apr 14 '21 08:04 echarles

We might want to double check these are conform to the guidelines.

In particular the "Logo Misuses" section in this document: https://github.com/jupyter/design/blob/master/brandguide/brand_guide.pdf

jtpio avatar Apr 14 '21 09:04 jtpio

Thx for the pointer @jtpio. I guess all contributors are not designers and the selected one should go through a more formal process to be officially announced and published. A review in terms of accessibility will also be needed.

echarles avatar Apr 14 '21 09:04 echarles

I guess all contributors are not designers and the selected one should go through a more formal process to be officially announced and published.

This may not be sufficient, or possible. Creating official derivative of the logo can void the Jupyter trademark. In general that is why many project have 2 logos, only one of which is trademarked. For example the android logo and the android robot. The trademark android logo has just the font with the word "Android" and cannot be modified even for official use. The robot though is not; and can have derivative work.

I'm not part of the trademark committee anymore, I would suggest contacting them, but I would strongly advise against modifying the jupyter logo for a RTC version.

Note (I'll also edit your comments to number the proposal so that we can refer to it in test.)

Carreau avatar Apr 14 '21 15:04 Carreau

@Carreau I am trying to find a contact for the trademark on eg https://jupyter.org/governance/trademarks.html but can not find any. Do you have any pointer?

echarles avatar Apr 14 '21 15:04 echarles

to me proposal 1 is the more balanced, but it screams Ubuntu "Circle of friends" (official name) . The other ones as well but to a lesser extent. I think that simply the dot in the middle of the arc is in my opinion close enough to the shape of one friends in the "circle of friends" that it could be deemed too confusing to be part of the logo.

Carreau avatar Apr 14 '21 15:04 Carreau

Also Who the F**** altered the original SVG logo , the circles are not circles anymore in the SVG you pointed to.

See comparison of current svg in the design repo vs previous one: Screen Shot 2021-04-14 at 08 59 45

Carreau avatar Apr 14 '21 16:04 Carreau

Also Who the F**** altered the original SVG logo , the circles are not circles anymore in the SVG you pointed to.

@Carreau I remember github was allowing to upload SVG like in the initial comment (17 Jul 2020), but today it does not allow it anymore. Maybe the distortion you have found is the reason why github has disabled that feature...

echarles avatar Apr 14 '21 16:04 echarles

I remember github was allowing to upload SVG like in the initial comment (17 Jul 2020), but today it does not allow it anymore. Maybe the distortion you have found is the reason why github has disabled that feature...

Maybe, I think the original comment is just a link to the current file on master, and master was changed since then. It's not relevant to the current conversation too much it's just weird.

Carreau avatar Apr 14 '21 17:04 Carreau

Hmm... @echarles Thanks for doing the work to create options. I'm not sure about adding a new logo for RTC. Isn't RTC going to be a standard part of JupyterLab?

willingc avatar Apr 14 '21 18:04 willingc

Hmm... @echarles Thanks for doing the work to create options. I'm not sure about adding a new logo for RTC. Isn't RTC going to be a standard part of JupyterLab?

... of JupyterLab but also of Jupyter Server, JupyterHub... or as a component to be consumed by any third party application. For now we are working on a nbmodel that resides indeed under the jupyterlab packages but this can evolve if it makes sense.

So yes, this may be out of scope for now... sorry if I bring confusion with this... I thought it was also a way to do something else and maybe interest other people...

echarles avatar Apr 14 '21 19:04 echarles

Thanks @echarles for providing a bit more info on the scope of the usage. No confusion brought at all. I'm all for fun and making things interesting.

willingc avatar Apr 15 '21 19:04 willingc

The contact information for the trademark committee is: [email protected]

The trademark committee has considered a number of requests from individuals and organizations asking to modify the Jupyter logo. So far, the general trend of the trademark committee has been to ask people to "use but don't modify" the logo, which is also the recommendation in the branding guideline above.

ellisonbg avatar Apr 20 '21 20:04 ellisonbg

Thx @ellisonbg This is the mail I have just sent to [email protected]

Dear All,

I'd like to submit to your review the idea around a specific logo for Jupyter Realtime Collaboration.

https://github.com/jupyterlab/rtc/issues/51

Can you please comment on that issue what we should do for the next steps: Or close, or further process with the idea or ...

Kr, Eric

echarles avatar Apr 21 '21 05:04 echarles

The idea of a dedicated logo has come as eg. jupyterhub, jupyterlab with their own logo have been helpful to me (as explained on https://github.com/jupyter/design/issues/65).

@ all / Please wait on the trademark committee answer before working or submitting on new proposal. We may close this and forget the idea.

echarles avatar Apr 21 '21 06:04 echarles