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Las Vegas ROIs don't line up even though outline looks correct

Open mchamberland opened this issue 5 years ago • 13 comments

The Las Vegas analysis finds the right outline of the phantom but, when overriding the angle to account for the phantom orientation, the ROIs are not properly aligned, which suggests a scaling issue or perhaps different dimensions of my specific phantom model? I tried to find a phantom size that would align the ROIs properly, but haven't had luck.

To Reproduce Analyze the image I have uploaded. I override the angle to 270 and that looks reasonable... but maybe I'm totally off!

Expected behavior If the phantom outline and angles are correct, I'd expect the ROIs to properly align with the phantom. The discrepancy seems to suggest my phantom has different dimensions than what is assumed in the code. Unless I'm missing something?

Screenshots See attached. See also pictures of my phantom with scale.

Additional context Acquired on Elekta iView. Note that Elekta documents state that you should acquire the image with a 12x12 field size, but doing so Pylinac cannot find the phantom (because the edges are cutoff). So, I've opened up the jaws, as recommended by Pylinac documentation. LasVegas2 jpg LasVegas1 lasvegas lasvegas.pdf

mchamberland avatar May 08 '20 14:05 mchamberland

It's a little easier to see how the ROIs don't quite line up on the PDF. Also, probably easier to do the analysis yourself and adjust window level.

mchamberland avatar May 08 '20 15:05 mchamberland

Interesting. I've never seen an LV phantom w/ screws in it before. Do you know who the manufacturer is or where you bought it?

jrkerns avatar May 08 '20 17:05 jrkerns

I'm used to something like this: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Raymond_Schulz/publication/224957021/figure/fig1/AS:341234259382274@1458367995578/Phantom-images-acquired-on-NTX-for-image-quality-evaluation-a-a-Leeds-phantom-image.png

jrkerns avatar May 08 '20 17:05 jrkerns

Apparently, we got it from Elekta when we installed our current linacs in 2010.

I also had never seen the phantom with screws until I came to my current workplace. We had Varian linacs in my previous workplace.

mchamberland avatar May 08 '20 18:05 mchamberland

Elekta...

jrkerns avatar May 08 '20 18:05 jrkerns

I just went ahead and unscrewed the phantom. Turns out, it's assembled from metal sheets of varying thicknesses. There is one "column" of holes drilled into each sheet.

I've uploaded pictures here.

mchamberland avatar May 08 '20 19:05 mchamberland

Never a dull moment! Pretty smart for a homemade hack.

jrkerns avatar May 08 '20 21:05 jrkerns

I'm not sure if you need to but I think you can get replacement nylon bolts for that threading.

crcrewso avatar May 11 '20 15:05 crcrewso

Pictures of the phantom re-uploaded here.

mchamberland avatar Jan 11 '22 21:01 mchamberland

Gotcha, thanks Marc. Is there any official documentation from Elekta I can look over?

jrkerns avatar Jan 12 '22 17:01 jrkerns

None that I know of.

The iView customer acceptance document has a little diagram of the phantom, but it only shows you the diameter of the holes in each row. Nominally, they are 15 mm, 10 mm, 7 mm, 4 mm, 2 mm, and 1 mm. Not sure if that's useful to you.

mchamberland avatar Jan 12 '22 17:01 mchamberland

iViewGT CAT version 4 03-25-09.pdf

See page 14 of the PDF.

mchamberland avatar Jan 12 '22 17:01 mchamberland

Ah ha! That's something. Thanks!

jrkerns avatar Jan 13 '22 14:01 jrkerns