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Jaynes Cumming model - sigma minus vs sigma z

Open mklilley opened this issue 5 years ago • 4 comments

Hi.

I'm very new to Qutip and still in the process of refreshing my quantum physics knowledge so please forgive me if this is a silly question.

In the notebook on the Jaynes Cumming model I cannot understand why the hamiltonian is written with the sm.dag()*sm for the atomic part in the following:

H = wc * a.dag() * a + wa * sm.dag() * sm + g * (a.dag() * sm + a * sm.dag())

When I look at the description of Jaynes Cumming model that you give and also on Wikipedia it seems like we should be using something like sigmaz instead, i.e.

H = wc * a.dag() * a + wa *tensor(qeye(N),sigmaz())+ g * (a.dag() * sm + a * sm.dag())

I wondered whether they might be the same, but they do not appear to be when I calculate them.

Thanks for your time.

Matt

mklilley avatar Jan 09 '20 15:01 mklilley

Hi Matt,

Did you get to the bottom of this? I am also confused.

Luke

lukelbro avatar Jun 16 '20 11:06 lukelbro

Hey. No one replied to me so never completely got to the bottom of it. I am however pretty confident now that it's just an error in their code.

mklilley avatar Jun 27 '20 08:06 mklilley

Hi Matt,

I found Chapter 15 of Optical Coherence and Quantum Optics - Leonard Mandel, Emil Wolf very useful for figuring out what was going on.

Our confusion is about the atomic Hamiltonian which is written as either:

A harmonic oscillator:

Where and so that in the excited state = and in the ground state = 0.

Equivalent to a spin 1/2 particle in a magnetic field:

Where , is the inversion operator (which is often written as ). Be careful as this is subtly different to Pauli Z. Your second Hamiltonian should be:

H = wc * a.dag() * a - wa * tensor(qeye(N),sigmaz())+ g * (a.dag() * sm + a * sm.dag())

The reference energy level is usually dropped as a constant does not affect the dynamics. If is in the ground state we can see that , and the hamiltonians are equivalent.

Sorry about the weird \rangles and \langles, I can't figure out why they are rendering like that.

lukelbro avatar Jul 19 '20 13:07 lukelbro

Thanks @lukelbro . Forgive me, I can't see the difference between the Hamiltonian you wrote and my second one...maybe I just need some more coffee lol.

mklilley avatar Jul 20 '20 12:07 mklilley