[5.1] Menus and categories view with equal headline

[chmst]

Pull Request for Issue # .

Summary of Changes

Make headline in categories like headline in menus. There is plenty of place for text and is better a11y and usability.

Testing Instructions

Compare menus and categories view in backend

Actual result BEFORE applying this Pull Request

Expected result AFTER applying this Pull Request

[brianteeman]

If this change is going to be made thn it needs to be made everywhere - I know of at least banners-clients that would also need to be updated - there may be others.

Also its not a bug fix so it should be in 4.3 i think

[chmst]

agree. Do you see any problems there? It is better UX and better a11y.

[brianteeman]

Not sure myself that it's better anything, but it must be at least consistent

[crystalenka]

I think this is definitely more clear, at least in desktop. What happens in mobile?

consistency is of course important, but let's figure out the best pattern and then we can see where else it needs to be implemented. :)

[chmst]

Ithas to be made equal for all categories. Now we havean inconsitency. Why I prefer this versoin? Because we make text invisible when there is plenty of place, no need for ugly titles. The dropdown for hiding columns says "archived items" - is it obvious that the folder icon stands for archived items? You know that of course - but a new user?

[chmst]

@crystalenka on mobile these columns are not displayed at all.

[brianteeman]

will you be updating banner-clients?

[chmst]

There are all categories views - banner, newsfeed, contacts (also weblinks). Maybe user notes .. I must investigate.

If the pattern is accepted then I can do it (but after my holidays). I can set this on draft, so nothing happens befor all is consistent.

[brianteeman]

There are all categories views - banner, newsfeed, contacts (also weblinks). Maybe user notes .. I must investigate.

I checked them

[coolcat-creations]

I have tested this item :white_check_mark: successfully on c82adbf251d90757b4f0830f948cc5e7ea668a81

Tested this successfully, thank you!

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[crystalenka]

Tested successfully, but not submitting it on the tracker because I am reconsidering my earlier comment after seeing it in different components. :/

The labels are indeed more clear than only icons, but I am currently on my laptop which has a smaller screen and in some components, this change means that there is significantly less white space and a lot of visual weight is given to these counters when they're not necessarily the most critical part of these views:

As a result, even though the labels are more clear, the interface is harder to understand because the eye doesn't know where to go.

I agree both that the original pattern isn't very clear and that it should be consistent across all views like this, but I think we need to take a step back and find a different approach so it can be both clear and meaningful.

I was wrong before to make an opinion without seeing how it affected other components; apologies that you spent additional time on it just for me to come in and suggest a different direction. :(

[brianteeman]

@crystalenka thats why they were not given heading texts originally. It would be good if people remembered that previous work was not done on a whim without any thought.

[crystalenka]

@crystalenka thats why they were not given heading texts originally. It would be good if people remembered that previous work was not done on a whim without any thought.

No one implied that. Previous work is important; we also need to be open to improving and getting better as we learn and grow. I think there is a solution that solves both problems but need to think through it more.

[chmst]

The smart search content map was not changed in this PR. I would remove the "indexed content" from the language string. I can do that if you want.

In any case, these informations should be consistent. We have

• the "verbose" version in com_menus
• the "very verbose" version in smart search
• the "icons only" in categories and banners

So we were not consequent in the past.

But if the JXT wants to make a concept which meets all needs, I will be happy. Maybe a separator or very light background could make it better.

[Quy]

Maybe add a legend in the footer similar to Permissions.

[dennise24]

I have tested this item :white_check_mark: successfully on 462b155983dcdf2fd4bed720194d12890c448c6d

I have tested this item ✅ successfully

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[hannazn]

I have tested this item :white_check_mark: successfully on 462b155983dcdf2fd4bed720194d12890c448c6d

I have tested this item ✅ successfully

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[richard67]

RTC

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[peterpeter]

I have tested this item :red_circle: unsuccessfully on 462b155983dcdf2fd4bed720194d12890c448c6d

Got an error: 500 Layout default_batch_footer not found.

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https://prnt.sc/s257iDiogD3c

[dorisdreher]

I have tested this item :red_circle: unsuccessfully on 462b155983dcdf2fd4bed720194d12890c448c6d

Error in Articles Categories after installation An error has occurred. 500 Layout default_batch_footer not found.

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[adj9]

I have not tested this item.

In Safari 15.6.1 I don't see the difference

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[robertolongo]

I have tested this item :red_circle: unsuccessfully on 462b155983dcdf2fd4bed720194d12890c448c6d

I tested the patch with 5.1.0-alpha1 and ‎5.1.0-alpha4 and I encountered the following error:

An error has occurred. 500 Layout default_batch_footer not found.

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[richard67]

To all who get the error "500 Layout default_batch_footer not found.": How have you applied the pull request and on which Joomla version? That layout has been removed in 5.1 meanwhile.

I will trigger a new build of the testing packages for download right now. Maybe they were not up to date with that change.

You can test again when the downloads are available again.

[faustonenci]

I have tested this item :white_check_mark: successfully on 462b155983dcdf2fd4bed720194d12890c448c6d

good work

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[peterpeter]

@richard67 Joomla 5.1.0-alpha4 with pre-installed com_patchtester from server list on pizza-bugs-fun.com

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[robertolongo]

I have tested this item :white_check_mark: successfully on 77281dfad593dabf51ae0402c66c0ec6f02a9671

@peterpeter @dorisdreher After the drone rebuilder, it works!

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[peterpeter]

I have tested this item :white_check_mark: successfully on 77281dfad593dabf51ae0402c66c0ec6f02a9671

Works now :smile:

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[LadySolveig]

Thank you!

[heelc29]

@chmst @LadySolveig The tooltip in the category view only applies to articles and is confusing for all other category views.

[brianteeman]

Confirmed that the changes in this PR are not correct - obviouslty the same problem is present with banners