Jody Klymak

The postion of the ylabel is not known until a draw is made so calling fig.canvas.draw() first is needed.

BTW, I assume we are all aware of: https://matplotlib.org/gallery/pyplots/align_ylabels.html

Sure, because we trigger a recalc when users ask for the x/ylims. But every other possible thing that can get changed at draw time doesn't necessarily get a recalc just...

Sure, I agree - thats the suggested fix, is for someone to make the automatic label repositioning over-rideable with manual values if desired, like we did in #17127 for the...

I don't think there is a fix for this right now. OTOH, I suspect its not too hard to do. PR would be welcome...

Actually, I take that back. The problem is that `axis.update_units` only checks that the converter is appropriate for the data, not the actual units of the data. So the fix...

I agree that the documentation shouldn't claim that this works. Not sure how we indicate that a kwarg actually has no effect, but that we'd like it to someday... I...

I'm confused - are we saying `plot_date` is broken, but `plot` works? I wasn't aware `plot_date` did anything different that `plot`.

I do wonder if we should go a step further and hard deprecate this method. Datetime with timezones are confusing enough without slightly different semantics.

This was discussed a bit during the call this week. In working on #10841, I found it pretty strange that the formatter only operated on one tick at a time,...