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Stop developing this technology
This technology is only going to be used for evil purposes. To deceive people, steal their money, possessions, undercover operations. Nothing good. It is already being used for scams like the pig-butchering plate, in which hundreds of thousands of lives around the world are being left without money, causing a lot of suffering.
Well, ban cars, weapons, hunting, the Internet, computers. you wrote such nonsense. technology will develop, but without you. on the contrary, it must be developed. it was created for entertainment, and if a person uses it for other purposes, then let him answer for himself, it’s not the technology that’s to blame, but the person, not the machine gun, but the person. learn to recognize technology is my advice to you.
Honestly, i understand you perfectly. I am a software engineer like you people. The problem is creating technology that can be turned into a weapons system in peacetime. This technology is being used by scammers, almost exclusively, then, what more use can there be than pretending to be someone you are not? a joke? What if it is not? What if it serves for someone to impersonate someone important in your family and communicate to the rest that you have died? Or if it serves to authenticate a scammer's access to a mobile? or a foreign agent from a country hostile to the interests of your country?
You say that the responsibility is yours because you should be able to recognize that it is a deepfake, and before that I tell you that currently if you have a trained eye and you are alert, it is quickly recognized, as in the example you have given of the Putin video. It is seen to the millisecond that it is not him, but that is because the technology is still at a green point. The uncanny valley will disappear in no time.
I speak to you as a victim of a scam of this type of technology. Please, you have family, put yourselves in the shoes of your relatives who know nothing at all about technology. Think of ways to recognize the bad uses of this technology that is not going to bring anything good. It is already destroying the lives of multiple people, every day. I beg you, put your knowledge at the service of good, not evil.
Best,
Alonso
El lun, 21 feb 2022 a las 16:50, nofacedeepfake @.***>) escribió:
Well, ban cars, weapons, hunting, the Internet, computers. you wrote such nonsense. technology will develop, but without you. on the contrary, it must be developed. it was created for entertainment, and if a person uses it for other purposes, then let him answer for himself, it’s not the technology that’s to blame, but the person, not the machine gun, but the person. learn to recognize technology is my advice to you.
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I think the whole problem is electricity! It needs to be turned off! This technology could be used to destroy our planet. Think about it.
Sir, I wish you learn the hard way then the misuse of technology. If you are not capable of reflecting in the slightest, you are a cynic who will have to learn the hard way.
In the meantime, know that you have my absolute contempt and you must know precisely what your technology is for. To destroy life and plunge 80-year-old grandfathers and grandmothers into poverty. In your conscience, if you have it, it will remain.
This time it was my parents, tomorrow who knows, it will be theirs, or those of someone they know.
But what the hell, they should have recognized that they are fake faces, right?
This technology is only going to be used for evil purposes. To deceive people, steal their money, possessions, undercover operations. Nothing good. It is already being used for scams like the pig-butchering plate, in which hundreds of thousands of lives around the world are being left without money, causing a lot of suffering.
Damn it, man. Blaming technology because of a case of scamming? Seriously?
How many people have been scammed by governments, banks, stocks, insurance companies, and so on? How many have been victimized by phone scammers, TV scammers, Internet scammers? Millions? A billion? How many lives have been broken? How many have lost jobs, families and even lives? Was it technology or human nature to blame?
You're talking about global things, citing an isolated case as an example. A drop in the sea. Do you know what % of those who use this technology will use it harmfully? What is the acceptable margin of error? I guess you don't have an answer. You're just looking for guilty.
These are realities of progress And reality is always worse than we think. So it was, and it will be.
Peace.
I am agree with the opositors to this post, technology is not good or evil, it is neutral, people who use technology can use it for good or for evil... if someone blame this technology, why not to blame guns, warships, tanks, airplanes, shotguns, machineguns before blaming this technology? I think a gun is more dangerous than this technology, and if someone use a gun, a tank or this technology to comite crimes then he or she should be judged in a court and put in jail, not the creator of this technology... and I am not agree this technology will be used only for evil, It can be used also in art projects, in the cinema, in the industry of entretainment... I have artistic projects and I personaly use it for it... this technology toguether with other technologies can be used to create characters like Alita (in the movie) and do art with it...
Technology is not guilty or inocent, people is guilty or inocent
ok this technology is going to be used for evil but if you are smart you can just not fall for the scams right? but the responsability is of the user we should make a religion out of this
Well, ban cars, weapons, hunting, the Internet, computers. you wrote such nonsense. technology will develop, but without you. on the contrary, it must be developed. it was created for entertainment, and if a person uses it for other purposes, then let him answer for himself, it’s not the technology that’s to blame, but the person, not the machine gun, but the person. learn to recognize technology is my advice to you.
Why does it have to be developed? That argument is just progress for the sake of progress, no matter what damage it might do.
Why does it have to be developed? That argument is just progress for the sake of progress, no matter what damage it might do.
Philosophical question. Why should anything be developed at all?
This issue is more relevant to DeepFaceLab which is responsible for training and face swapping, whereas this page is just an application of DeepFaceLab
Why does it have to be developed? That argument is just progress for the sake of progress, no matter what damage it might do.
Philosophical question. Why should anything be developed at all?
Because it might provide benefit? And some obviously don't? You have to consider there being nuance in everything, including technological development, unless you're going to be willing to do anything for the sake of progress.
Technology does not involve the problem of virtue and evil. appreciated to the warmhearted and talented author. I just want to ensured whether exist memory leak in S3FD face detect module. The other two default module YOLO and CenterFace don't have this issue.
Even a dick can be used for evil purposes - to rape someone. And vagina too - to try to seduce someone in order to then put him behind bars. Should we ban dicks and vaginas?
Make that argument for the nuclear bomb. I am waiting for the good side of those.
Very easy - if not the nuclear bombs, some countries that have them, would've long been invaded by some other countries. As a result, many people would be killed and suffer.
The topic reminds me about covid-idiots who suddenly have started to assume that there's only ONE and only ONE dangerous virus in this planet -- covid-19, aka little flu! The only one which must be dealt with. And who neglects THOUSANDS of other viruses that've always existed and will exist, live among us, and which too have killed and will kill people. Let alone thousands non-viral induced causes of death.
Therefore, forget about thousands of other threats and let's fight one threat which has suddenly become more important that others.
Opponents against this technology, please first read the paper containing the authors' (DeepFaceLab) thoughts. https://arxiv.org/pdf/2005.05535.pdf
The authors say: "The best defense is a good offense."
There have always been crimes such as the misuse of the technologies even before this technology was made public. I totally agree with the thought that it’s not the technology that’s to blame, but the person.
As a researcher and developer, I would like to thank the developers and the researchers who have contributed and made this technology public. This technology could be used for more useful purposes, such as defending against counterfeiting or adversarial attack, and more.
As the authors have mentioned in the paper, research on media anti-forgery detection is being invigorated and dedicating growing efforts to forgery face detection. Training robust forgery detection models requires high-quality fake data. I also want to contribute to this technology so that it can help people who really need it.
Stop developing telecommunications technology! $30B are lost every year to phone scams! We should just go back to the forests and live like monkeys.
It's either developed in the clear and open or it is developed way deep in the dark. Pick your poison, it's great this is open to review code/data sets and analyze tactics procedures, and protocols of malicious activity and the actors performing it.
This technology is only going to be used for evil purposes. To deceive people, steal their money, possessions, undercover operations. Nothing good. It is already being used for scams like the pig-butchering plate, in which hundreds of thousands of lives around the world are being left without money, causing a lot of suffering.
Please. The world ain't sunshine and butterflies.
@iperov PLEASE CLOSE AND DELETE THIS ISSUE! IT ONLY SPREADS CONSPIRACY BULLSHIT!
@HWiese1980 I believe that everyone has the right to express their opinions on the internet. :D
@iperov Expressing an opinion is one thing. Spreading fake "facts" and conspiracy theories is a completely different story. An opinion is not a problem until it turns into deep superstition and anti-democratic, radicalized movements. We have too many of those already to give them a platform where they can distribute their hazardous bullshit.
@iperov Censorship would be if they couldn't spread their junk at all anymore. They can! No one stops them from going outside and uttering their dirt everywhere. No one's gonna put them in jail for it.
Would you keep their posts up if they said, Jews were the root of all evil and needed to be gassed because they were in bed with the lizard people and formed a shadow cabinet that ruled the world? It's the exact same fake bullshit, and it's extremely dangerous.
By giving them a platform here (on GitHub where it should be all about code, not about conspiracy theories anyway) you contribute to the spreading of such wrong and dangerous bullshit. Do you want to be associated with it? Because that's what you'll get from it, nothing else.
@alonsoir I'm not sure what kind of idiot you are but if you were doing more research on this "technology" you could find out why it can be used with "celebrities" for now
First of all there are AI tools to detect a deepfake, Beside that imagine if I want to do something evil with someone esle, do you know how many "good" footage I need from that person to create a deep fake model to produce a good unrecognizable deepfake? Yeah... Think before say shit.
