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Future of Delugia

Open Finii opened this issue 1 year ago • 12 comments

When Cascadia Code Nerd Font comes out (see https://www.github.com/microsoft/cascadia-code/pull/720) we should consider if this project is still needed or not.

For me, personally, I still use Delugia albeit I improved the Caskaydia Nerd Fonts version. I believe we should think about the differentiation of the three projects (i.e. Delugia, Caskaydia NF, Cascadia).

Anyhow, I guess we should halt the auto-release of a Delugia version on Cascadia releases until we can see and examine the outcome of Cascadia NF, and how good it will fit our 'customers' needs.

We could also think about updating Delugia to Nerd Fonts v3.2.1, if it has any merrit.

I hope to start some open discussion and brainstorming here.

Finii avatar Apr 09 '24 04:04 Finii

@NormTurtle Please feel free to write something here, any input is appreciated :-)

Finii avatar Apr 12 '24 07:04 Finii

Delugia is the primarily my First Font . which also introduces me too NERD Font and font ligature. so whenever i change Distro i always look for Delugia as font. i primarly refrained from using Cascadia Code as it was product of Microsoft. heck even when i was using Window i was using Delugia only. i won't be installing Cascadia Code in any of my Distro . ( i just don't like Cascadia ).

i still do not know, how Font maintenace works. :-|

all i can say Delugia is one of the product which i been sticked to...

i look forward for what the maintainers decides.

NormTurtle avatar Apr 12 '24 10:04 NormTurtle

Hey @Finii Thanks for opening this. It does look like the next version of Cascadia with nerd fonts will make Delugia redundant. This project was, for me, always about automating the process of improving Cascadia for users Cacadia already has what we were adding to it we would serve our users best by redirecting them to the latest version of Cascadia. Updating to the latest Nerd Fonts seems like something we should do in the meantime.

adam7 avatar May 01 '24 13:05 adam7

Here a comparison matrix of versions

with ligatures without ligatures
Nerd Font CaskaydiaCove NF CaskaydiaMono NF
Nerd Font Mono Delugia
CascadiaCodeNF
CaskaydiaCove NFM
DelugiaMono
CascadiaMonoNF
CaskaydiaMono NFM
Nerd Font Propo Delugia Book
CaskaydiaCove NFP
CaskaydiaMono NFP

Further differences

  • Delugia uses Cascadia's Poweline glyphs instead of Nerd Fonts'
  • Caskaydia uses a special hinting step to make the letters look more like the CascadiaCove VF font (*)

All the work done with Delugia finally ended up in Nerd Fonts, so the differences are negligible now. I believe Delugia Book was available before Nerd Fonts even had a Propo variant, for example. Delugia was also the driver to several bug fixes in both Nerd Fonts and Fontforge.

I personally use Delugia as main font not only because of nostalgic reasons but also because I can wipe all 'Nerd Fonts' fonts from my system and still have a nice font installed, when I do Nerd Fonts development.

serve our users best by redirecting them to the latest version of Cascadia

In principle I guess that is the way. Except for the Book variant, if that uses anybody still. And then CascadiaCodeNF is based on Nerd Fonts v3.1.1, and in the meantime we have v3.2.1 already ;-D So this (Delugia) is still more bleeding edge than CascadiaCodeNF.

So the real question is rather: why have a Delugia when there is Caskaydia now? Or: Why not :grimacing:


(*) The Cascadia Code released fonts look different (in some applications) if you use the Cascadia Code variable font or the Cascadia Code static font version. The variable version (VF) is default installed with Windows Terminal and people often compare against that. The VF glyphs are hand-hinted while the static fonts just got ttfautohint which does look different. So if we patch against the static release versions of Cascadia our font will always look different than the Cascadia VF...

Finii avatar May 02 '24 09:05 Finii

I guess the auto-release feature could be activated again, at least all the workflow steps succeed again.

I did leave some message in the release notes, but probably the README should get some more hints about the three fonts and how to select what one wants.

Finii avatar May 02 '24 13:05 Finii