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section-number citation for reference entry that uses "<referencegroup> yields error

Open ietf-svn-bot opened this issue 3 years ago • 9 comments

keyword_referencegroup type_defect | by [email protected]


A section-number citation for a reference entry that uses "<referencegroup> yields this error:

rfc9000-referencegroup-issue.xml(3876): Error: Expected the target of an <xref> with a section= attribute to be a <reference>, found <referencegroup> Not creating output file due to errors (see above) Unable to complete processing rfc9000-referencegroup-issue.xml

Please see the "No error if you remove ..." comment in <https://www.rfc-editor.org/v3test/rfc9000-referencegroup-issue.xml>


Issue migrated from trac:639 at 2022-02-08 07:15:22 +0000

ietf-svn-bot avatar May 14 '21 21:05 ietf-svn-bot

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Possible workaround for single RFC BCPs.

as defined in BCP<whatever> (See RFC<the only one in the bcp> section <whatever>).

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ietf-svn-bot avatar Jun 03 '21 21:06 ietf-svn-bot

Adding the XML here because it was lost in the migration from svn to GitHub.

The following construction causes the error shown above:

QUIC endpoints using PMTUD <bcp14>SHOULD</bcp14> validate ICMP 
messages to protect from packet injection as specified in 
<xref target="RFC8201" format="default"/> 
and <xref section="5.2" sectionFormat="of" target="BCP145" format="default"/>.

There is no error if you remove the 'section="5.2" sectionFormat="of"' from the xref:

ICMP message validation <bcp14>MUST</bcp14> include matching
IP addresses and UDP ports <xref target="BCP145" format="default"/> and...

ajeanmahoney avatar Jan 25 '24 15:01 ajeanmahoney

Note that the BCP mentioned in this issue has only one RFC in it (as of Jan 2024).

A solution that covers the general case of multiple RFCs in the subseries would need both a style recommendation and a way to specify it in the XML.

Perhaps:

As specified in Section 4 of RFC 8719 [BCP226]

Section 4 of RFC 8719 would be a link to that section. [BCP226] would take the reader to the reference entry.

The XML to construct might like this (the name of the attribute to capture which RFC is being linked to is just a suggestion):

<xref section="4" sectionFormat="of" rfcTarget="RFC8719" target="BCP145" format="default"/>

There would need to be a check that the RFC exists in the subseries to catch typos.

ajeanmahoney avatar Jan 25 '24 15:01 ajeanmahoney

Ah. We solved that in RFC 9485 by having two references, one for the section reference, one for the BCP/STD (the latter of which is still impacted by #1067).

Section <xref target="RFC3629" section="10" sectionFormat="bare" format="default" derivedLink="https://rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3629#section-10" derivedContent="RFC3629"> "Security Considerations"</xref> of RFC 3629 <xref target="STD63" format="default" sectionFormat="of" derivedContent="STD63"/>

There even is syntax for this in kramdown-rfc now (https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rfc-markdown/XZQ5f7YHQJ58e7sUfGHBWJ14xe8). Is there a need to add something to RFCXML?

cabo avatar Jan 25 '24 16:01 cabo

@cabo

Is there a need to add something to RFCXML?

I'm not sure it's necessary. It would be nice to have a more elegant way to construct the xref than the workaround above.

ajeanmahoney avatar Jan 25 '24 17:01 ajeanmahoney

Tools hat off for a moment. If you are referencing a section of an RFC, what is the value of compounding what you've written with the complication the the RFC happens to be (in) an subseries. Such a concept might well better be handled in prose, and leave the reference to be concrete, to the RFC, not the container.

Can this problem be explored with an example of a referencegroup that's not trying to model subseries to make sure the pecularities of subseries aren't hiding something we should be considering?

rjsparks avatar Jan 25 '24 22:01 rjsparks

I think we have converged on making the reference to the section in the RFC in the STD/BCP. The compounding happens because the RFC is no longer labeled in the rendering we have chosen for referencegroups. But there is a reasonable way to handle this, as shown in RFC 9485.

cabo avatar Jan 30 '24 21:01 cabo