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hirschmann
hirschmann
Config Request for HP Pavilion 15 -cx0xxx
Hello there. I have been trying for a while now to get nbfc working on my laptop. I originally followed the wiki guide but found it quite daunting and ended up applying one-by-one all the different HP configs noting which profiles made changes to my fan speed. I found one in particular (HP Compaq 15-s103tx) which somehow manages to set my fan to 100%. I then copied this profile and started to edit it as it wasn't working 100% for me. After playing around with this particular config I found that it does something to the way the EC handles battery charging and puts my laptop into some state where it does not want to charge. I have to either take the battery out or wait for the laptop to die entirely before Windows boots correctly. I, therefore, infer that what I thought were the read/write fan registers (for the HP Compaq 15-s103tx) are something else entirely on my laptop. I found that the reason my fan goes to 100% using the HP Compaq 15-s103tx is that the critical temperature was met in the profile. Any other adjustments to try and "force" the fan to a specific speed fail.
I request assistance going through the following EmbeddedController "code" that I have taken out of the extracted DSDT to identify which are the correct registers I should be testing.
Device (EC0)
{
Name (_HID, EisaId ("PNP0C09") /* Embedded Controller Device */) // _HID: Hardware ID
Name (_GPE, 0x14) // _GPE: General Purpose Events
Name (OKEC, One)
Name (_CRS, ResourceTemplate () // _CRS: Current Resource Settings
{
IO (Decode16,
0x0062, // Range Minimum
0x0062, // Range Maximum
0x01, // Alignment
0x01, // Length
)
IO (Decode16,
0x0066, // Range Minimum
0x0066, // Range Maximum
0x01, // Alignment
0x01, // Length
)
})
Method (_REG, 2, NotSerialized) // _REG: Region Availability
{
If ((Arg0 == 0x03))
{
OKEC = Arg1
OSTP ()
ECFG (One)
MSFG = (S0ID & One)
PBOV = (PB1E & One)
}
}
Method (CMDW, 2, NotSerialized)
{
Name (TEMP, One)
While (TEMP)
{
ECTB = Zero
TEMP = ECTB /* \_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC0_.ECTB */
}
ECTB = One
ECMD = Arg0
EDT1 = Arg1
ECTE = One
TEMP = One
While (TEMP)
{
TEMP = ECTE /* \_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC0_.ECTE */
}
ECTB = Zero
}
OperationRegion (ECMM, SystemMemory, 0xFC7E0800, 0x1000)
Field (ECMM, AnyAcc, Lock, Preserve)
{
REC1, 8,
REC2, 8,
WEC1, 8,
WEC2, 8,
WMIM, 8,
Offset (0x06),
STMS, 2,
MBMS, 2,
ACLS, 1,
MBSS, 1,
CSHE, 1,
ACSP, 1,
PSAC, 1,
PSBC, 1,
PSED, 1,
Offset (0x08),
PSPD, 8,
BCPD, 8,
BSTH, 8,
PRDT, 8,
UCPT, 8,
HHKP, 8,
SADP, 8,
FANE, 1,
CPUO, 1,
M4GO, 1,
FNSW, 1,
SBTC, 1,
AMDK, 1,
, 1,
EHP1, 1,
SAD2, 8,
FRPM, 8,
FNMX, 8,
FNMN, 8,
FWPM, 8,
RSTV, 8,
CPTV, 8,
GPTV, 8,
PHTV, 8,
FNTV, 8,
BTTV, 8,
HDTV, 8,
, 1,
, 1,
W2BS, 1,
SK6U, 1,
BARD, 1,
, 1,
FNHK, 1,
Offset (0x1D),
FBST, 1,
NGPS, 1,
BCDG, 1,
DGPS, 1,
DGRS, 1,
Offset (0x1E),
DGPE, 1,
DGHR, 1,
FBPC, 1,
EC6I, 1,
EC6O, 1,
GC6E, 1,
RG12, 1,
Offset (0x21),
BTNO, 8,
Offset (0x23),
NVDX, 8,
Offset (0x25),
CFBE, 1,
EPCF, 1,
Offset (0x26),
DPTC, 8,
Offset (0x2A),
PBSM, 2,
SBSM, 2,
, 2,
BMNC, 1,
BCLC, 1,
Offset (0x2C),
IOAF, 8,
BCTL, 128,
Offset (0x45),
ATTE, 16,
RTTE, 16,
BC00, 8,
BC01, 8,
BC02, 8,
BC03, 8,
BC04, 8,
BC05, 8,
BC06, 8,
BC07, 8,
MXER, 8,
ATTF, 16,
SBVR, 16,
NBM1, 1,
BBM1, 1,
PBM1, 1,
Offset (0x58),
IOST, 16,
BMNE, 16,
WACL, 1,
Offset (0x5D),
ERIB, 16,
Offset (0x61),
SMST, 8,
SMAD, 8,
SMCM, 8,
SMD0, 256,
BCNT, 8,
SMAA, 24,
SMBN, 8,
Offset (0x90),
BMNN, 72,
BN00, 8,
BN01, 8,
BN02, 8,
BN03, 8,
BN04, 8,
BN05, 8,
BN06, 8,
Offset (0xA1),
, 1,
VIDO, 1,
TOUP, 1,
Offset (0xA2),
ODTS, 8,
OSTY, 4,
, 1,
PBOV, 1,
ECRD, 1,
ADPT, 1,
PWAK, 1,
MWAK, 1,
LWAK, 1,
RWAK, 1,
WWAK, 1,
UWAK, 1,
KWAK, 1,
TWAK, 1,
CCAC, 1,
AOAC, 1,
BLAC, 1,
PSRC, 1,
BOAC, 1,
LCAC, 1,
AAAC, 1,
ACAC, 1,
S3ST, 1,
S3RM, 1,
S4ST, 1,
S4RM, 1,
S5ST, 1,
S5RM, 1,
CSST, 1,
CSRM, 1,
OSTT, 8,
OSST, 8,
THLT, 8,
TCNL, 8,
MODE, 1,
, 2,
INIT, 1,
FAN1, 1,
FAN2, 1,
FANT, 1,
SKNM, 1,
SDTM, 8,
FSSN, 4,
FANU, 4,
PCVL, 6,
SWTO, 1,
TTHR, 1,
TTHM, 1,
THTL, 1,
TFCT, 1,
NPST, 5,
CTMP, 8,
CTML, 8,
EST3, 8,
SKTB, 8,
SKTC, 8,
DPOT, 8,
EST1, 8,
EST2, 8,
, 1,
LIDF, 1,
PMEE, 1,
PWBE, 1,
RNGE, 1,
BTWE, 1,
Offset (0xB9),
BRTS, 8,
S35M, 1,
S35S, 1,
, 1,
MSFG, 1,
FFEN, 1,
FFST, 1,
Offset (0xBB),
WLAT, 1,
BTAT, 1,
WLEX, 1,
BTEX, 1,
KLSW, 1,
WLOK, 1,
AT3G, 1,
EX3G, 1,
PJID, 8,
CPUJ, 3,
CPNM, 3,
GATY, 2,
BTP0, 1,
BTP1, 1,
, 2,
BCC0, 1,
BCC1, 1,
Offset (0xBF),
Offset (0xC0),
BTY0, 1,
BAM0, 1,
BAL0, 1,
, 1,
BMF0, 3,
Offset (0xC1),
BST0, 8,
BRC0, 16,
BSN0, 16,
BPV0, 16,
BDV0, 16,
BDC0, 16,
BFC0, 16,
GAU0, 8,
BAT0, 8,
BPC0, 16,
BAC0, 16,
BCG0, 16,
BFCB, 16,
BTPB, 16,
BOL0, 1,
BFS0, 1,
Offset (0xDB),
ORRF, 1,
Offset (0xDC),
, 2,
SBIS, 1,
Offset (0xDE),
BSSB, 16,
Offset (0xE3),
BCV1, 16,
BCV2, 16,
BCV3, 16,
BCV4, 16,
MUAC, 16,
CYC0, 8,
Offset (0xF4),
BMD0, 16,
BACV, 16,
BDN0, 8,
Offset (0xFB),
OTAW, 8,
Offset (0xFF),
CYC1, 8,
Offset (0x2C3),
, 3,
GBTC, 1,
Offset (0x3B0),
Offset (0x3BC),
CPUT, 8,
Offset (0x3BE),
CPUU, 8,
Offset (0x3C0)
}
OperationRegion (ERAM, EmbeddedControl, Zero, 0xFF)
Field (ERAM, ByteAcc, Lock, Preserve)
{
Offset (0x5F),
ERBD, 8,
SMPR, 8,
Offset (0x62)
}
OperationRegion (CCLK, SystemIO, 0x1810, 0x04)
Field (CCLK, DWordAcc, NoLock, Preserve)
{
, 1,
DUTY, 3,
THEN, 1,
Offset (0x01),
FTT, 1,
, 8,
TSTS, 1
}
Method (FANG, 1, NotSerialized)
{
Local0 = EIDR (Arg0)
Return (Local0)
}
Method (FANW, 2, NotSerialized)
{
EIDW (Arg0, Arg1)
Return (Arg1)
}
Method (TUVR, 1, NotSerialized)
{
Return (0x05)
}
Method (THRO, 1, NotSerialized)
{
ITHR (Arg0)
}
Method (CLCK, 1, NotSerialized)
{
If ((Arg0 == Zero))
{
THEN = Zero
FTT = Zero
}
Else
{
DUTY = Arg0
THEN = One
}
Return (THEN) /* \_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC0_.THEN */
}
Method (PCLK, 0, NotSerialized)
{
IPCL ()
}
Method (ITHR, 1, NotSerialized)
{
If ((Arg0 == Zero))
{
Return (0xFF)
}
ElseIf ((Arg0 == One))
{
Return (DUTY) /* \_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC0_.DUTY */
}
ElseIf ((Arg0 == 0x02))
{
Return (TTHR) /* \_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC0_.TTHR */
}
Else
{
Return (0xFF)
}
}
Method (IPCL, 0, NotSerialized)
{
Local0 = PCVL /* \_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC0_.PCVL */
CPPC = Local0
PNOT ()
}
Method (_Q37, 0, NotSerialized) // _Qxx: EC Query, xx=0x00-0xFF
{
Debug = "=====QUERY_37====="
P80H = 0x37
Notify (ACAD, 0x80) // Status Change
Sleep (0x03E8)
Notify (BAT1, 0x80) // Status Change
^^^^WMID.WEI1 = 0x03
^^^^WMID.WED1 = Zero
Notify (WMID, 0x80) // Status Change
PWRS = One
PNOT ()
}
Method (_Q38, 0, NotSerialized) // _Qxx: EC Query, xx=0x00-0xFF
{
Debug = "=====QUERY_38====="
P80H = 0x38
Notify (ACAD, 0x80) // Status Change
Sleep (0x03E8)
Notify (BAT1, 0x80) // Status Change
PWRS = Zero
PNOT ()
}
Method (_Q40, 0, NotSerialized) // _Qxx: EC Query, xx=0x00-0xFF
{
Debug = "=====QUERY_40====="
P80H = 0x40
Local0 = Zero
If ((OSYS >= 0x07DC))
{
Notify (WLBU, 0x80) // Status Change
}
Else
{
^^^^WLBU.UPWL ()
Sleep (0xC8)
^^^^WMID.WEI1 = 0x05
^^^^WMID.WED1 = Zero
Notify (WMID, 0x80) // Status Change
}
}
Method (_Q48, 0, NotSerialized) // _Qxx: EC Query, xx=0x00-0xFF
{
Debug = "=====QUERY_48====="
P80H = 0x48
If ((NGPS == Zero))
{
P80H = 0x48
Notify (^^^PEG0.PEGP, 0xD1) // Hardware-Specific
}
Else
{
P80H = 0x49
Local0 = (NVDX + 0xD1)
Notify (^^^PEG0.PEGP, Local0)
}
}
Method (_Q49, 0, NotSerialized) // _Qxx: EC Query, xx=0x00-0xFF
{
Debug = "=====QUERY_49====="
P80H = 0x49
If (ECOK ())
{
CMDW (0x45, 0x45)
\_TZ.TZ02.TZTP = One
Notify (\_TZ.TZ02, 0x80) // Status Change
}
Else
{
\_TZ.TZ02.TZTP = Zero
}
}
Method (_Q4D, 0, NotSerialized) // _Qxx: EC Query, xx=0x00-0xFF
{
P80B = 0x4D
Debug = "=====QUERY_26====="
If (BMNC)
{
^^^^WMID.WEI1 = 0x16
^^^^WMID.WED1 = One
Notify (WMID, 0x80) // Status Change
}
If (BCLC)
{
^^^^WMID.WEI1 = 0x16
^^^^WMID.WED1 = One
Notify (WMID, 0x80) // Status Change
}
}
OperationRegion (PRT0, SystemIO, 0x80, 0x04)
Field (PRT0, ByteAcc, Lock, Preserve)
{
P80H, 8
}
Method (_Q10, 0, NotSerialized) // _Qxx: EC Query, xx=0x00-0xFF
{
}
Method (_Q11, 0, NotSerialized) // _Qxx: EC Query, xx=0x00-0xFF
{
Debug = "=====QUERY_11====="
P80H = 0x11
If (IGDS)
{
Notify (^^^GFX0.DD1F, 0x87) // Device-Specific
}
Else
{
}
}
Method (_Q12, 0, NotSerialized) // _Qxx: EC Query, xx=0x00-0xFF
{
Debug = "=====QUERY_12====="
P80H = 0x12
If (IGDS)
{
Notify (^^^GFX0.DD1F, 0x86) // Device-Specific
}
Else
{
}
}
Method (_Q15, 0, NotSerialized) // _Qxx: EC Query, xx=0x00-0xFF
{
Debug = "=====QUERY_15====="
P80H = 0x15
If (IGDS)
{
Local0 = LIDF /* \_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC0_.LIDF */
Local0 = ~Local0
Local0 &= One
Local0 += 0x02
If (^^^GFX0.GLID (Local0))
{
^^^GFX0.CLID |= 0x80000000 /* External reference */
}
}
Notify (LID0, 0x80) // Status Change
}
Method (_Q1D, 0, NotSerialized) // _Qxx: EC Query, xx=0x00-0xFF
{
Debug = "=====QUERY_1D====="
P80H = 0x1D
PCLK ()
}
Method (_Q1E, 0, NotSerialized) // _Qxx: EC Query, xx=0x00-0xFF
{
Debug = "=====QUERY_1E====="
P80H = 0x1E
If (CTUR)
{
If ((TFCT == Zero))
{
CSMI (0xDA, Zero)
}
Else
{
CSMI (0xDA, One)
}
}
}
Method (_Q24, 0, NotSerialized) // _Qxx: EC Query, xx=0x00-0xFF
{
Debug = "=====QUERY_24====="
P80H = 0x24
Sleep (0x03E8)
Notify (BAT1, 0x80) // Status Change
}
Method (_Q25, 0, NotSerialized) // _Qxx: EC Query, xx=0x00-0xFF
{
Debug = "=====QUERY_25====="
P80H = 0x25
Sleep (0x03E8)
Notify (BAT1, 0x81) // Information Change
Sleep (0x03E8)
Notify (BAT1, 0x80) // Status Change
}
Method (_Q33, 0, NotSerialized) // _Qxx: EC Query, xx=0x00-0xFF
{
Debug = "=====QUERY_33====="
P80H = 0x33
ADBG ("EC PB press")
PWPR ()
}
Method (_Q34, 0, NotSerialized) // _Qxx: EC Query, xx=0x00-0xFF
{
Debug = "=====QUERY_34====="
P80H = 0x34
ADBG ("EC PB release")
PWRR ()
}
Name (CTSL, Package (0x19)
{
0x10,
0x12,
0x13,
0x14,
0x15,
0x16,
0x17,
0x20,
0x21,
0x22,
0x24,
0x25,
0x26,
0x28,
0x90,
0x91,
0xFE,
0x92,
0x93,
0x94,
0x95,
0x96,
0x97,
0x98,
0x99
})
Mutex (CFMX, 0x00)
Method (CFUN, 4, Serialized)
{
Name (ESRC, 0x05)
If ((DerefOf (Arg0 [Zero]) == 0x15))
{
CreateWordField (Arg1, Zero, SFUN)
If ((SFUN == 0x9001)){}
ElseIf ((SFUN == 0x9002))
{
STDT = Zero
BFDT = Zero
BFDT = Zero
STDT = One
}
ElseIf ((SFUN == 0x9000))
{
ESMC (Arg2)
If ((ESMS != 0xFF))
{
Local1 = Buffer (0x80){}
Local1 [Zero] = 0x80
Local1 [One] = ESMS /* External reference */
Local3 = ESMB /* External reference */
Local1 [0x02] = DerefOf (Local3 [Zero])
Local1 [0x03] = DerefOf (Local3 [One])
Local1 [0x04] = DerefOf (Local3 [0x02])
Local1 [0x05] = DerefOf (Local3 [0x03])
Local1 [0x06] = DerefOf (Local3 [0x04])
Local1 [0x07] = DerefOf (Local3 [0x05])
Local1 [0x08] = DerefOf (Local3 [0x06])
Local1 [0x09] = DerefOf (Local3 [0x07])
Local1 [0x0A] = DerefOf (Local3 [0x08])
Local1 [0x0B] = DerefOf (Local3 [0x09])
Local1 [0x0C] = DerefOf (Local3 [0x0A])
Local1 [0x0D] = DerefOf (Local3 [0x0B])
Local1 [0x0E] = DerefOf (Local3 [0x0C])
Local1 [0x0F] = DerefOf (Local3 [0x0D])
Local1 [0x10] = DerefOf (Local3 [0x0E])
Local1 [0x11] = DerefOf (Local3 [0x0F])
Local1 [0x12] = DerefOf (Local3 [0x10])
Local1 [0x13] = DerefOf (Local3 [0x11])
Local1 [0x14] = DerefOf (Local3 [0x12])
Local1 [0x15] = DerefOf (Local3 [0x13])
Local1 [0x16] = DerefOf (Local3 [0x14])
Local1 [0x17] = DerefOf (Local3 [0x15])
Local1 [0x18] = DerefOf (Local3 [0x16])
Local1 [0x19] = DerefOf (Local3 [0x17])
Local1 [0x1A] = DerefOf (Local3 [0x18])
Local1 [0x1B] = DerefOf (Local3 [0x19])
Local1 [0x1C] = DerefOf (Local3 [0x1A])
Local1 [0x1D] = DerefOf (Local3 [0x1B])
Local1 [0x1E] = DerefOf (Local3 [0x1C])
Local1 [0x1F] = DerefOf (Local3 [0x1D])
Local1 [0x20] = DerefOf (Local3 [0x1E])
Local1 [0x21] = DerefOf (Local3 [0x1F])
BFDT = Local1
STDT = One
}
Else
{
STDT = 0x8000
}
}
Else
{
SFNO = Arg1
BFDT = Arg2
CSMI (0xCE, Arg0)
}
}
ElseIf ((Match (CTSL, MEQ, DerefOf (Arg0 [Zero]),
MTR, Zero, Zero) != Ones))
{
SFNO = Arg1
BFDT = Arg2
CSMI (0xCE, Arg0)
}
Else
{
STDT = 0x8000
}
}
Name (OCSL, Package (0x03)
{
0x80,
0x81,
0x82
})
Method (PFUN, 4, Serialized)
{
SFNO = Arg1
BFDT = Arg2
CSMI (0xCF, Arg0)
}
Method (CMFC, 4, Serialized)
{
Name (RTVL, Package (0x04)
{
Zero,
Zero,
Zero,
Zero
})
Debug = "=== In CMFC method ==="
If ((ObjectType (Arg0) == One))
{
RTVL [Zero] = 0x8000
}
ElseIf ((DerefOf (Arg0 [Zero]) < 0xFE))
{
Local1 = Buffer (0x82){}
CreateWordField (Local1, Zero, RTST)
CreateField (Local1, 0x10, 0x0400, RTDT)
If (((ToInteger (Arg0) <= 0x8F) && (ToInteger (Arg0
) >= 0x80)))
{
PFUN (Arg0, Arg1, Arg2, Arg3)
}
ElseIf ((ToInteger (Arg0) == 0x92))
{
PFUN (Arg0, Arg1, Arg2, Arg3)
}
Else
{
CFUN (Arg0, Arg1, Arg2, Arg3)
}
RTST = STDT /* External reference */
RTDT = BFDT /* External reference */
Return (Local1)
}
Else
{
RTVL [Zero] = 0x8000
}
Return (RTVL) /* \_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC0_.CMFC.RTVL */
}
Mutex (FAMX, 0x00)
Method (EIDR, 1, Serialized)
{
Acquire (FAMX, 0xFFFF)
ERIB = Arg0
Local0 = ERRD (0x5F)
Release (FAMX)
Return (Local0)
}
Method (EIDW, 2, Serialized)
{
Acquire (FAMX, 0xFFFF)
ERIB = Arg0
ERWT (0x5F, Arg1)
Release (FAMX)
}
OperationRegion (ECCD, SystemMemory, 0xFC7E0800, 0x1000)
Field (ECCD, AnyAcc, Lock, Preserve)
{
Offset (0x580),
Offset (0x582),
ECTB, 1,
ECTE, 1,
Offset (0x583),
ERN1, 8,
ERN2, 8,
ERN3, 8,
ERN4, 8,
ERN5, 8,
ERN6, 8,
ERN7, 8,
ERN8, 8,
ECMD, 8,
EDT1, 8,
EDT2, 8,
EDT3, 8,
EDT4, 8,
EDT5, 8,
, 1
}
Method (ERWT, 2, Serialized)
{
Local0 = Buffer (0x08){}
Local0 [Zero] = 0xB1
Local0 [One] = Arg0
Local0 [0x02] = Arg1
ERCD (Local0)
}
Method (ERRD, 1, Serialized)
{
Local0 = Buffer (0x08){}
Local0 [Zero] = 0xB0
Local0 [One] = Arg0
Return (ERCD (Local0))
}
Mutex (CSMX, 0x00)
Method (ERCD, 1, Serialized)
{
Acquire (CSMX, 0xFFFF)
Name (ESRC, 0x64)
ECTB = One
ECMD = DerefOf (Arg0 [Zero])
EDT1 = DerefOf (Arg0 [One])
EDT2 = DerefOf (Arg0 [0x02])
ECTE = One
While (((ESRC != Zero) && (ECTE != Zero)))
{
Sleep (0x0A)
ESRC -= One
}
Local0 = ERN1 /* \_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC0_.ERN1 */
ECTB = Zero
Release (CSMX)
Return (Local0)
}
Method (SBAT, 2, NotSerialized)
{
Local0 = Buffer (0x08){}
Local0 [Zero] = Arg0
Local0 [One] = 0x16
Local0 [0x02] = Arg1
Local0 [0x03] = Zero
Local0 [0x04] = Zero
ESMC (Local0)
}
Method (SBA2, 2, NotSerialized)
{
Local0 = Buffer (0x08){}
Local0 [Zero] = Arg0
Local0 [One] = 0x36
Local0 [0x02] = Arg1
Local0 [0x03] = Zero
Local0 [0x04] = Zero
ESMC (Local0)
}
Mutex (ESCX, 0x00)
Method (ESMC, 1, NotSerialized)
{
Acquire (ESCX, 0xFFFF)
Name (ESRC, 0x05)
SMD0 = Zero
SMAD = DerefOf (Arg0 [One])
SMCM = DerefOf (Arg0 [0x02])
SMBN = DerefOf (Arg0 [0x03])
Local4 = DerefOf (Arg0 [0x04])
Local5 = Zero
BCNT = Local4
If ((Local4 != Zero))
{
Local1 = SMD0 /* \_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC0_.SMD0 */
While (~(Local4 == Local5))
{
Local1 [Local5] = DerefOf (Arg0 [(0x05 + Local5)]
)
Local5 += One
}
SMD0 = Local1
}
SMPR = DerefOf (Arg0 [Zero])
While ((~(ESRC == Zero) && ~((SMST & 0x80
) == 0x80)))
{
Sleep (0x14)
ESRC -= One
}
If ((SMST == 0x80))
{
ESMB = SMD0 /* \_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC0_.SMD0 */
ESMS = BCNT /* \_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC0_.BCNT */
}
Else
{
Debug = "====== Sent EC SMBus command time out. ======"
ESMS = 0xFF
}
Release (ESCX)
}
}
If I have not provided enough information please let me know and I will get that across.
See my answer here for Pavilion 15-cs0xxx. Ewald
excuse me, what do you mean?
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