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New category for solutions with/without features accessible only with pasting the code

Open commonnickname opened this issue 6 years ago • 12 comments

There are some feature that don't exist in the game normally, but that you can introduce by editing the code in a text editor. For example: random pickUp, random set, numbers from 100 to 255 etc. However, putting solutions that use those features feels like it would defeat the purpose of having a repository where people can look up record solutions, - if those solutions cannot be written without 3rd party software. Or maybe not a new category, but a new tag: Year NUM - NAME (TYPE) - (in-game/editor).txt

commonnickname avatar Nov 01 '18 07:11 commonnickname

Related questions: If we make a new category, what do you think we should do with solutions that use early random steps? Technically, a text editor is not required to write it, because it can be written on another level and then copied over. I'm 55/45 split in favour of moving it into the new category.

commonnickname avatar Nov 01 '18 07:11 commonnickname

i think early random steps count as "hidden feature"

ghost avatar Nov 01 '18 14:11 ghost

Another reason to have a new category is that in case the developers fix it, we won't have any problems retrieving older solutions that work.

commonnickname avatar Nov 03 '18 16:11 commonnickname

yeah, that's right

ghost avatar Nov 03 '18 17:11 ghost

but what about levels like compulsory office romance or levels with div 0 trick?

ghost avatar Nov 03 '18 17:11 ghost

Or a category "without copying". Another motivation would be that the iPad version doesn't allow to copy and paste the code?

commonnickname avatar Feb 23 '19 18:02 commonnickname

I really think we should have this. I personally do not like exploit solutions at all, and imo they do not belong in the main category, if a new category is created. It might be the best solution, tho to have a new tag for exploit solutions, so that we do not have to create exploit categories for all 3 current categories. For the overview table, a simple icon marker in the level name would probably work.

By "exploit solutions" I mean solutions, that can not be created without external tools (i.e. a text editor). Quirks like div 0, or e.g, abusing ForEachDir to skip looking around should still be categoriezed as "non exploit", imo.

NeunEinser avatar Mar 07 '19 09:03 NeunEinser

I agree. I was looking for a speed solution for year 15:Shred Lines. I found the top speed to be 11, but I cannot enter it in the game, just paste it, because the GUI does not allow me to create pickup n,e. Therefore, the answer was not fulfilling.

Ormek avatar Dec 14 '19 13:12 Ormek

Why hasn't this been fixed yet? It's been over a year.

Solutions that use exploits like pasting in invalid commands should be in a separate category, not the main one.

Doomsday31415 avatar Jan 14 '20 06:01 Doomsday31415

I agree, solutions that cannot be entered from the game, so either non-existent like pickup n,e or not granted at that level like step n,e, should be in a separate category, if there at all.

blueglyph avatar Apr 08 '22 17:04 blueglyph

thanks for suggestion, I made a directory for pasteable-only solutions with 26 solutions

abfipes12 avatar Apr 21 '23 20:04 abfipes12