Henry Schreiner

I think you should have a very good reason to go against a 3x more popular choice. It's much harder to suggest the opposite of what everyone does and hope...

> It takes less time for people to change things than writing a comment to argue honestly. This is not remotely helpful or realistic. All CI files, most cibuildwheel configs,...

Okay, it rubbed me the wrong way. You have to remember this is also being proposed as a rule for repo-review, which is not just a suggestion in a document!...

I agree on that, but I think that's why it's important make sure the SPEC has the correct recommendation. Once it's in the SPEC, it would eventually come to sp-repo-review.

FYI, `hatch test` is called `test`. Though if you can choose, this seems fine. I do try to do `nox -s tests`, though a few projects I work on use...

Wow, I didn't realize "test" and "doc" were already reserved as the testing and docs extras. Especially since "docs" is 3x more popular. Thanks! I recommend we follow Python's standards...

I've opened https://github.com/pypa/hatch/issues/1553 to suggest hatch pick up on the `test` extra by default.

My recommendation: Avoid mentioning extras for now. I don't think a SPEC should make a recommendation in direct opposition to the official guidelines lightly, so we can open a discussion...

Nox supports json output for the session list for the last couple of releases. You can process with jq or Python. Is that fine? Sounds like exactly what you need.

Dependency-groups don't allow self-dependencies, so `dev-dependencies = ["[test]"]` wouldn't be replaceable with dependency groups. Also, I think/hope that dependency groups are going to feed into a new environment and task...