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Legacy Agenda's Calendar shows tasks with deadlines but agenda 3 doesn't
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What Happened?
Tasks with set deadlines don't appear on the calendar of agenda 3, but on the legacy version the tasks appear just fine on the calendar. It seems like on the new calendar only tasks with schedules are shown.
Reproduce the Bug
Create a task with a deadline, no scheduled date, observe how in the legacy calendar the task appears just fine, but on the new calendar (agenda 3) the task doesn't show up on the calendar.
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Environment Information
Agenda v3.6.4 Latest logseq version
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Are you willing to submit a PR? If you know how to fix the bug.
- [ ] I'm willing to submit a PR (Thank you!)
Thank you for your feedback, 'DEADLINE' represents the deadline of a task, while displaying it in on the calendar requires determining the start date of the task. We are still considering how to design this specific aspect.
The thing is, I actually use tasks on logseq (with deadlines) as a way to plan as I go. Start dates/schedules are an after-thought for me, I like to plan and schedule tasks visually, by looking at the deadlines on the calendar.
I understand that people's workflows are different, that's why I think the best way to do this would be to add a toggle in the settings ("Show tasks with deadline") or something similar.
Btw, your plugin is a big part of my current workflow, I cannot thank you enough for the work you are doing. Thank you.
Is your approach to set a DEADLINE when create a task, and then later setting a specify SCHEDULED based on that DEADLINE?
Would you remove the DEADLINE then setting up a SCHEDULED?
By the way, Agenda3 has a Plan feature that you might want to try out.
For me a schedule and a deadline are things that coexist together (with different dates). After planning my schedules (by looking at the deadlines), the deadline is left as a point of reference for when a task must be done already. I'm not on my computer right now, but when I get back to it I'll try the plan feature as well.
If a task has both SCHEDULED and DEADLINE, how would you like it to be displayed on the calendar?
If it has both, I would like the schedule to show up in the calendar, and to be able to see the deadline by clicking it.
Thank you for your feedback, 'DEADLINE' represents the deadline of a task, while displaying it in on the calendar requires determining the start date of the task. We are still considering how to design this specific aspect.
Tracking the starting date is sometimes extra work for me. A starting date might be good for some sort of visulization of the entire task, but in general case we tend to focus more on "how much time left". So maybe one idea is to use today as default value of starting dates. Another is to visualize only those with a logbook record, which means we already have an "actual" starting moment. For those tasks no time recorded yet, it would be great if we can still find them (as the legacy version does) in the calendar view.
Or I think it's already useful if there is a countdown number along side DEADLINEs. Of course, we could render the time span between some point in the past and the deadline it self. But in the end, a countdown might be more helpful even though much less fancy. It helps DEADLINE tasks stand out and easy to recognize and at the same time, it conveys the most important information of DEADLINEs in an obvious way.
Anyway, forget what I said if you don't like it. Any form will be perfect as long as DEADLINEs are visible in the calendar : )
PS: thanks again for the efforts you made so far to develop this plugin.
I think your ideas are great, thank you for your great work! The countdown is very important, I already use a small plugin in Logseq that shows a countdown for deadlines/schedules on my queries, but having it on agenda will be great! And the logbook idea is just perfect. Hopefully these are not too hard to implement.
Hey, I just installed the plugin and I like what I see so far. Great job!
Just to put in another perspective. It is also an option to display a task more than once. So the deadline of a task could have a special format (color/design or just a "DEADLINE:" prefix") and appear as well on the calendar view. This way you can have all the info in the calendar and you don't have to decide for a single time to show the task.
Can we have the same way that Agenda 2 to handle the DEADLINE. This was great and I would love to see DEADLINE as the end of the task instead of the current implementation.
Can we have the same way that Agenda 2 to handle the DEADLINE. This was great and I would love to see DEADLINE as the end of the task instead of the current implementation.
@Kallang22 I took a look at Agenda2, and noticed that the deadline is not considered as the end time of the task. Its behavior is consistent with scheduled.
Okay understood. But can we not make it so that the end date is the deadline. That would alleviate the need for the xtra data and will use the native SCHEDULED and DEADLINE references to point respectively to START and END dates?
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Can we have the same way that Agenda 2 to handle the DEADLINE. This was great and I would love to see DEADLINE as the end of the task instead of the current implementation.
@Kallang22 https://github.com/Kallang22 I took a look at Agenda2, and noticed that the deadline is not considered as the end time of the task. Its behavior is consistent with scheduled.
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Okay understood. But can we not make it so that the end date is the deadline. That would alleviate the need for the xtra data and will use the native SCHEDULED and DEADLINE references to point respectively to START and END dates?
@Kallang22 I understand that there is currently no end date function in logseq, and the deadline represents the task's due date. Agenda3 still hopes to be as consistent as possible with logseq's native syntax. After logseq supports the end date function, Agenda3 can provide the ability to convert with one click.
https://github.com/haydenull/logseq-plugin-agenda/releases/tag/v3.13.0 added support for deadline, welcome to use.