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Family: Siraikic
In this family there are two languages. It is suggested that Jangli, Jafri and khetrani be added here. Then there will be five languages.
In Saraiki the following are same and alternate names so be deleted please: Bahawalpuri Derawali Jatki Multani Siraiki Hindki Thali
These 6 are extra so these six be deleted and these are alternate names for Saraiki.
Hi! Thanks for your input, what is the source for considering Khetrani a Siraikic languages? Re the alternate, names, I understand Multani, Thali, Derawali (of Dera Ismail Khan) to be different localities rather than alternative names? Is this not so? all the best, H
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In this family there are two languages. It is suggested that Jangli, Jafri and khetrani be added here. Then there will be five languages.
In Saraiki the following are same and alternate names so be deleted please: Bahawalpuri https://glottolog.org/resource/languoid/id/baha1254 Derawali https://glottolog.org/resource/languoid/id/dera1244 Jatki https://glottolog.org/resource/languoid/id/jatk1238 Multani https://glottolog.org/resource/languoid/id/mult1243 Siraiki Hindki https://glottolog.org/resource/languoid/id/sira1262 Thali https://glottolog.org/resource/languoid/id/thal1241
These 6 are extra so these six be deleted and these are alternate names for Saraiki.
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According to The Linguistic Survey of India (LSI) VIII Indo-Aryan Languages, North-Western Group Part I, Khetrani is included in lahnda gruoup and comaparison of it words with Saraiki is given. Clearly Khetrani may be inculuded in this family. Clearly Jatki & Siraiki Hindki are extra names, these not regions. ,Multani, Thali, Derawali (of Dera Ismail Khan) are old names for Saraiki. All these are same in alphabet, Gramer, Idoims, Proverbs, Cecus and all other places. So these be removed.
The LSI's view of Khetrani is outdated, see Birmani & Ahmed (2017) which cited as the clf ref in Glottolog. There are things that point to Siraiki and things that point to Sindhi, I think the numeral 'two' in b- that sides with Sindhi is the decider.
Yes Jatki and Siraiki Hindki are superfluous but the regional varieties are not, are there is regional variation as clearly stated in e.g. LSI.
Pada tanggal Rab, 19 Okt 2022 pukul 09.40 mpQadir @.***> menulis:
According to The Linguistic Survey of India (LSI) VIII Indo-Aryan Languages, North-Western Group Part I, Khetrani is included in lahnda gruoup and comaparison of it words with Saraiki is given. Clearly Khetrani may be inculuded in this family. Clearly Jatki & Siraiki Hindki are extra names, these not regions. ,Multani, Thali, Derawali (of Dera Ismail Khan) are old names for Saraiki. All these are same in alphabet, Gramer, Idoims, Proverbs, Cecus and all other places. So these be removed.
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Ok, Jangli and Jafri be added in family. In the family there will be four entries.
In Saraiki all extras be deleted. and may be put in other / old names. Today no one call its old names. Multani, and all other names be deleted.
There are no Such regional variations that these be named/distinguished. No one can speak or write these above named styles or varities because in linguistic these are all Same.
The name Multani is still used by diasporic speakers in India who migrated after Partition.
