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why is the "user-manual" hidden?

Open utonsal opened this issue 6 years ago • 13 comments

hello, the "user-manual" is stored in git-scm.com/docs/user-manual, but is not viewable when looking in the file git-scm.com/docs/ . Why is it 'hidden' in this way?

I read following notice about opening issues here, but on the [email protected] -mailing list (which is referenced to from git-scm.com/community) , I was redirected here. "

  • [ ] This is not an issue about
    • the Git documentation (a.k.a. man/help pages, i.e. anything with a URL starting with https://git-scm.com/docs), which should be raised with the community, "

greetings

utonsal avatar Mar 20 '18 10:03 utonsal

Thanks for reporting this issue @utonsal :) The git-scm website is currently under a redesign work, so this can be addressed very soon.

What do you think @jasonlong ?

pedrorijo91 avatar Mar 20 '18 10:03 pedrorijo91

I’m out this week, but will take a closer look when I get back. My initial reaction was that I don’t immediately recognize this page and that we should definitely include it in the new top-level Manual section. On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 6:19 AM Pedro Rijo [email protected] wrote:

Thanks for reporting this issue @utonsal https://github.com/utonsal :) The git-scm website is currently under a redesign work, so this can be addressed very soon.

What do you think @jasonlong https://github.com/jasonlong ?

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jasonlong avatar Mar 22 '18 12:03 jasonlong

Wow.

I just spent a few minutes digging for it, and what do you know - it's actually titled "Git's User Manual". It's mentioned briefly in the Description section of man git ("The Git User's Manual[1] has a more in-depth introduction"), and the pointer to it in the footnotes seems to be the only other mention.

In the Git repo, it's Documentation/user-manual.txt. It appears to largely date back to 2007.

Man, talk about RTFM. Thanks for bringing this to our attention @utonsal!

sxlijin avatar Mar 23 '18 05:03 sxlijin

I actually have mixed feelings about user-manual.txt. As you noted, it's pretty old. Most of that stuff hasn't changed, but I think that there are better resources these days. Like, say, the Pro Git content we already host, which is more comprehensive and accessible, has actual non-ascii-art diagrams, and is more actively maintained.

So I don't think it's wrong for us to host it or even link to it, but IMHO we should be steering people in search of a prose overview of Git to the book content.

peff avatar Mar 23 '18 05:03 peff

Am 23.03.2018 um 06:57 schrieb Jeff King:

I actually have mixed feelings about user-manual.txt. As you noted, it's pretty old. Most of that stuff hasn't changed, but I think that there are better resources these days. Like, say, the Pro Git content we already host, which is more comprehensive and accessible,

has actual non-ascii-art diagrams, which is a disadvantage, because less universal.

and is more actively maintained. which is a clear advantage.

There could also be the point, that the book is not considered free since it's license is CreativeCommons - Non-Commercial.

So I don't think it's wrong for us to host it or even link to it, but IMHO we should be steering people in search of a prose overview of Git to the book content.

greetings, utonsal

utonsal avatar Mar 23 '18 20:03 utonsal

has actual non-ascii-art diagrams, which is a disadvantage, because less universal.

It is your opinion that ascii-art diagrams are "more universal". Most of the time it's a bunch of characters that any non-seasoned reader will find ugly and incomprehensible.

jnavila avatar Apr 12 '18 14:04 jnavila

added design label to be considered on #1179 cc @jasonlong

pedrorijo91 avatar Aug 28 '18 10:08 pedrorijo91

@pedrorijo91 @jasonlong its this issue is still not resolved? if not I m interested in solving this issue.

prasadgujar avatar Mar 06 '19 08:03 prasadgujar

I think it has been considered under the work in #1179 but not sure about the status

pedrorijo91 avatar Mar 06 '19 08:03 pedrorijo91

very nice. As from what I see, my point is still not resolved, but rather has been talked away. utonsal

Am 06.03.2019 um 09:34 schrieb Prasad Mangesh Gujar:

@pedrorijo91 @jasonlong its this issue is still not resolved? if not I m interested in solving this issue.

utonsal avatar Mar 14 '19 23:03 utonsal

Alas, still hidden in 2020. Even if it might not cover recent features, it's still a good medium-length introduction to git, that some users might prefer reading, before delving into the more comprehensive Pro Git book.

Vrihub avatar Dec 02 '20 10:12 Vrihub

@Vrihub My opinion now is pretty the same as from https://github.com/git/git-scm.com/issues/1188#issuecomment-375553433. If somebody feels strongly about it enough to make a PR, I wouldn't mind having a link from the /docs page. It probably needs some work in lib/tasks/index.rake to make it render properly, though. IIRC, the user-manual's asciidoc is unlike the regular manpages, so we may need some massaging of settings, etc, to get it to look right.

peff avatar Dec 02 '20 16:12 peff

image

says it all.

jnavila avatar Dec 02 '20 16:12 jnavila