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App tagline and description for Urbit is not logical for those that don't already know what it is
See https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel-apps/blob/master/urbit/umbrel-app.yml#L7-L20
tagline: Run Urbit on your Umbrel
description: >-
Urbit is a personal server for self-sovereign personal & networked
computing. Nock, a functional combinator, is built into Hoon, a system
programming language, used to implement Arvo, a deterministic operating
system, that communicates over Ames, a decentralized, encrypted P2P network.
This app helps you boot and manage Urbit instances on your Umbrel. It provides a simple management GUI, start and stop operations, and passes your +code through the interface.
If you are interested in purchasing an L2 planet checkout: subject.network/buy
Credit to ~timluc-miptev, ~master-forwex, ~sipsen-pilser & ~rivpyl-sidfyl
Perhaps if you already know what Urbit is, this circular-definition of a tagline and jargon-fueled description make sense. But people who already know what it is don't need the description. The description should be grokkable by people who don't already know what Urbit is (like me!).
Since I don't know what it is and have never used it, I am not qualified to write the tagline or description. However here is an AI generated one that feels like it makes more sense:
tagline: Own your data, run your apps, and connect with others on your personal digital server
description: >-
Urbit is a new way of using computers and the internet that tries to give people more control over their digital
lives. Instead of relying on
big companies to store your information and run your apps, Urbit lets you do all of this on your own "digital
space." This space is called a "ship," and it's like your own private island on the internet. You can use it to talk
to friends, store files, and run apps without worrying about your data being used by others. Urbit is built from
scratch to be more secure and private than the regular internet. While it's still being developed and improved,
the goal of Urbit is to create an internet where people have more freedom and control over their online
activities.
Someone should update the description, and perhaps use the AI one here if it's correct.
this circular-definition of a tagline and jargon-fueled description make sense
sorry you didn't like it :( i don't think it is a 'circular definition' at all though, it is a concise technical description of a very unusual and widely scoped project, followed by a short description of what the app does. urbit is an entirely novel computing stack. though i agree it could probably use more emphasis on the social aspects since that's how most people use it
Name: Urbit Tagline: Run Urbit on your Umbrel Description: This app helps you boot and manage Urbit instances on your Umbrel
That's circular by definition because it uses the word it's defining in its own definition. It would be better if the description mentioned the problems it solved instead of rattling off the technologies it uses. From this description it could be for shopping, p2p file sharing, p2p communication, network monitoring, or literally anything. There is nothing about the description that that indicates anything about it wants to do, other than "use Hoon" and "use Ames" and "implement Avro" which are cryptic and unhelpful. The fact "Nock" is built into it means nothing to the average Joe. Actually it means nothing even to the avid bit coiner and self-hoster, which is presumably the target market for Umbrel.
Imagine if the Uptime Kuma description was "Built with Vue, offers Gotify and HTTP(s) Json Query for arbitrary computing stacks" without ever mentioning that it's a notification service for application downtimes. I think we all agree that would be insane. This is the equivalent.
Imagine if McDonalds marketed themselves using this strategy
Name: McDonalds Tagline: Go to McDonalds Description: McDonalds uses Presto model 0541104 for perfection every time
You'd be like "okay but wtf is McDonalds" you'd have no idea that it was a restaurant for fast food burgers and fries. You'd just have a vague idea that it was someplace you could go and that it uses some type of technology that you've never heard of.
From this description it could be for shopping, p2p file sharing, p2p communication, network monitoring, or literally anything.
yes, urbit is a general purpose computer which can be programmed to do things that computers can do.
I just think having some type of "why" explained would be nice. But maybe it's just me that doesn't get it ¯_(ツ)_/¯