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Come up with a list of names/labels for different techniques used in patterns

Open joostdecock opened this issue 4 years ago • 9 comments

This is a todo from #846

The idea is to have some sort of list of techniques/challenges that are required to make a pattern, and then list them so people have an idea what it takes.

The first step: come up with such a list. Feel free to comment below to add items.

joostdecock avatar Feb 21 '21 16:02 joostdecock

My suggestions:

Technique/challenge Notes
Knit binding
Bias binding
Darts  
Curved seams
Simple pockets In my mind, for the current designs, this is "any pockets besides welt pockets," but this is just an idea. Might include pockets serged around the edges and inserted in side seams, like Paco, or folded and topstitched patch pockets, like Albert
Welt pockets This design includes welt pockets, which are an intermediate sewing technique. It is easy to omit welt pockets if desired.
Zipper  
Sleeves  
Ribbing  
Buttons  
Grommets/eyelets
Interfacing
Basting Maybe not needed? I think anything that would require basting would also require "Precision" though not the other way around
Lining  
Elastic Elastic is either sewn inside a fabric tube, like Paco, or attached directly, like Bruce
Precision Precise sewing required, e.g., Benjamin, Carlita/Carlton, Cathrin, Florent, Jaeger, Simon/Simone, Trayvon, maybe others
Patternmaking from a block This is a block, a basic shape on which other patterns are based. Blocks are typically not made as-is (except to verify the fit) but rather serve as a basis for other patterns. Making a pattern from a block may involve adding wearing ease and design ease.

I've been jotting down techniques as I go through the difficulties ( #879 ), so can provide examples if helpful to anyone.

nataliasayang avatar Feb 23 '21 17:02 nataliasayang

Think this would be really helpful, is there any way we can publish a preliminary list with placeholders for the ones we don't have?

Example like the instructions for Albert - https://freesewing.org/docs/patterns/albert/instructions/

darigovresearch avatar Jun 05 '21 18:06 darigovresearch

@darigovresearch , do you mean a preliminary list of patterns and their associated techniques? If yes, see what you think of this...

Design Techniques
Aaron athletic shirt Knit binding
Albert apron Simple pockets
Bella body block Darts, Developing from a block
Benjamin bow tie Precision, Interfacing
Bent two-part sleeve block Developing from a block, Sleeves
Breanna body block Darts, Developing from a block
Brian body block Sleeves, Developing from a block
Bruce boxer briefs Curved seams, Elastic
Carlita coat Simple pockets, Welt pockets, Interfacing, Basting, Precision, Darts, Lining, Curved seams
Carlton coat Simple pockets, Welt pockets, Interfacing, Basting, Precision, Darts, Lining, Curved seams
Cathrin corset Precision, Grommets/eyelets
Diana draped top Sleeves, Bias binding
Florence face mask Curved seams
Florent flat cap Interfacing, Precision
Holmes hat Precision, Lining
Hortensia handbag Precision, Zipper
Huey hoodie Zipper, Ribbing, Sleeves, Simple pockets
Hugo hooded jumper with raglan sleeves Ribbing, Sleeves, Simple pockets
Jaeger sport coat Darts, Buttons, Precision, Sleeves, Welt Pocket, Interfacing
Paco pants Simple pockets, Elastic, Grommets/eyelets
Penelope pencil skirt Darts, Zipper, Interfacing, Lining
Sandy circle skirt Zipper, Buttons
Shin swim trunks Grommets/eyelets
Simon shirt Darts, Buttons, Precision, Sleeves
Simone shirt Darts, Buttons, Precision, Sleeves
Sven sweater Sleeves, Ribbing
Tamiko top  
Teagan T-shirt Sleeves, Knit binding
Theo trouser Welt pockets, Darts, Basting, Lining, Precision, Interfacing
Titan trouser block Developing from a block
Trayvon tie Precision, Interfacing
Wahid waistcoat Darts, Buttons, Interfacing, Welt pockets
Waralee wrap pants Welt pockets

nataliasayang avatar Jun 05 '21 19:06 nataliasayang

@nataliasayang that's amazing! Should we have a placeholder for any items which don't use any techniques as it may confuse users who think that a label is not present out of misdocumentation?

Having a dedicated section of the website explaining these techniques to use as a common/shared resource would be helpful but may be worth opening as a separate issue

Correction there is already a page and may be worth cross checking to see if any are missing or under-documented - https://freesewing.org/docs/sewing/

darigovresearch avatar Jun 05 '21 19:06 darigovresearch

@darigovresearch I think a placeholder is a good idea! What do you think would be a sensible name?

Agreed, the sewing docs seem like a good spot for this. I'm happy to work on adding pages for new techniques if the current list is okay. Might be able to get help from sewing people on Discord too.

As far as adding techniques to patterns, what do you think, @joostdecock ? We had talked about icons/labels (https://github.com/freesewing/freesewing/issues/882) which I like, but I'm not sure where they would go. There are probably simpler options to do this without icons, like adding a note (https://freesewing.dev/editors/markdown/custom-components/note) to each pattern's instructions. Like what @darigovresearch listed for Albert :)

nataliasayang avatar Jun 05 '21 20:06 nataliasayang

@nataliasayang "No complex techniques used in this pattern" should suffice as a placeholder.

May be good to add the list of techniques required in a new paragraph of the "What you need" section of each pattern as this is a common page & users are likely to go there to see what they will require. This requires no need for icons or specific notes as a first iteration. Request for icons can be set as an issue which someone from the community may want to make a pull request for.

darigovresearch avatar Jun 05 '21 20:06 darigovresearch

A placeholder is a good idea, if for nothing else but to differentiate between patterns that have no tricky techniques, and patterns where we forgot to add the list of techniques (which I can see happening when we add a new pattern).

Perhaps we can take a queue from github where we label things with good-first-issue. Would something like good-first-pattern or beginner-friendly be useful? Or does that sort of invalidate the fact that it's supposed to be a list of techniques :thinking: If so, perhaps something like basic sewing skills.

In general, I prefer to avoid saying things are easy (or not complex) because that is easy enough for us to say as we are all demi-gods of the sewing realm. But it can be really discouraging for people who truly are absolute beginners.

joostdecock avatar Jun 06 '21 08:06 joostdecock

As for where to keep this info, I think the logical choice would be in the @freesewing/pattern-info package.

That way, we can pull out that info and include it on a variety of pages. Whether that's in the docs, or on the pattern info pages.

joostdecock avatar Jun 06 '21 08:06 joostdecock

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