pkg pkg and quiet mode

currently pkg allow for example install and delete packages with quiet (-q) mode, but due interactive nature of pkg it will do nothing in this case.

Which way is right here:

if user defined -q without -y throw error. (I like this one, since it will not hind the truth)
if user defined -q pkg will auto define -y (hiding information form user is very bad)
maybe something more?

Aug 11 '14 15:08 andrejzverev

and never 2) 3a) drop quite mode 3b) operate in quite mode only if no conflicts detected and log all operations and outputs to syslog

Aug 13 '14 18:08 ohauer

3a) Without quite mode my scripts read lot of 1% 2% 3% ... 100% of progress. 3b) Mostly pkg made for people. People like reading and controlling such tools :-)

+1 for throw error.

Aug 14 '14 03:08 andrejzverev

In my opinion quiet mode should everywhere default to

throw an error if -y is not passed
print the minimum aka to percent something when an action is started like "action..." and something when it is finished "done"
We do need quiet mode scripts like portmaster, the ports tree and more do like the quiet mode :)

Sep 12 '14 06:09 bapt

On 12/09/2014 07:34, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:

In my opinion quiet mode should everywhere default to

throw an error if -y is not passed

Why not make quiet mode imply 'yes'? Also should quiet mode be assumed if stdout is not a tty?

print the minimum aka to percent something when an action is started like "action..." and something when it is finished "done"

Unless we're running a command like 'pkg info' or 'pkg query' that specifically asks for information, then I think quiet mode should produce no output on stdout. Error messages are allowable, but there's an argument for just logging the error to syslog and relying on the exit code to signal the problem to callers.

We do need quiet mode scripts like portmaster, the ports tree and more do like the quiet mode :)

Exactly. 'Quiet mode' is really aimed at scripting use, and we should mention that explicitly in the documentaion.

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Matthew

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$infracaninophile avatar$ Sep 12 '14 06:09 infracaninophile

… 'Quiet mode' is really aimed at scripting use, …

Ah.

I very frequently find the mode highly valuable in situations that do not involve scripting. Less verbose is often easier for a reader to understand, when providing support; and so on.

Diverse use cases require/desire different levels of quietness.

Food for thought: