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FDC3 for Web Browsers & Bridging Discussion group 17th April 2025

Open kriswest opened this issue 8 months ago • 11 comments

Group overview

Discussion group focused on FDC3 use in Web browsers and the Bridging of FDC3 Desktop Agents to allow interop to span across them (based on simialr techniques to FDC3 comms in a Web browser).

Software support for both FDC3 in a Web Browser and Desktop Agent Bridging are provided in the FDC3 2.2 NPM module: https://www.npmjs.com/package/@finos/fdc3/v/2.2.0

Relevant issue tags

Current open issues that relate to the above concepts with the labels: Image image

Meeting Date

Thursday 17 April 2025 - 10am (US eastern timezone EDT) / 3pm (London, BST)

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Participation Requirements

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Agenda

  • [x] Convene & roll call, review meeting notices (5mins)
  • [x] Review action items from previous meeting(s) (5mins)
    • #1551
    • #1542
  • [x] Any feedback on 2.2.0 release testing?
  • [x] A note on destructuring the Desktop Agent API (@julianna-ciq)
  • [x] #1543
  • [x] #1545
  • [ ] #1546
  • [ ] #1250 and #1263
  • AOB & Adjourn

Minutes

  • Convene & Roll Call, Review Meeting Notices

    • Meeting commenced and roll call conducted.
    • Reviewed meeting notices, completed within allocated time.
  • Review Action Items from Previous Meeting(s)

    • Desktop Agent Bridging Discussion group - 26th March 2025 #1551: No action items remain.
    • FDC3 for Web Browsers Discussion group 20th March 2025 #1542:
      • User channel issue resolved; fix included in version 2.2.
      • Placeholder/callout updates made in documentation for SubAgent information.
      • Discussion on 2.3 branch proposals related to security and SubAgent.
  • Feedback on 2.2.0 Release Testing

    • Conformance testing aspects discussed; Rob working on moving the framework to the monorepo.
    • Mention of using AI to support conformance testing.
  • A Note on Destructuring the Desktop Agent API (@julianna-ciq)

    • Julianna summarised the issue and proposed fixes were discussed.
      • DesktopAgentProxy has had its methods bound to this, but Channel, PrivateChannel and IntentResolution all need their functions binding or swapping out for arrow functions (which always stay bound)
        • We can't fix destructuring preload Desktop Agent implementations, but we could add a recommendation or requirement to a future version of the Standard.
    • Action to raise issue related to destructuring, linked to #1550.
    • Proposal to implement a linter for detecting destructuring issues.
  • #1543

    • Discussed concept of altering the channel list at runtime.
      • @kriswest pointed to some potential issues regarding saved workspaces and layouts and the past assumption that the list of channels would stay the same.
    • @robmoffat highlighted user channels as a workspace concept; Pavlo raised the idea of default user channels.
    • @robmoffat and others to review proposed solution on issue (allow update of displayMetadata rather than channel.id)
  • #1545

    • Giles proposed consistent functionality irrespective of registration method.
    • Explored options for handling context types:
      1. Overloading signatures.
      2. Adding an option for backward compatibility.
      3. New method addIntentListenerWithContext.
    • Action for Giles to update the issue with potential solutions and organise voting.
  • #1546

    • To be discussed next time
  • #1250 and #1263

    • To be discussed next time

Action Items

  • @julianna-ciq : Raise an issue linked to destructuring topic (#1550).
  • @Roaders : Update the issue on context handling in intent listeners (#1545) with proposed solutions.
  • @robmoffat review proposal on issue #1543 and see if it meets your needs in FDC3 Sail
  • @kriswest add #1546 and #1250/#1263 to next meeting agenda.

Untracked attendees

Full name Affiliation GitHub username

kriswest avatar Apr 17 '25 10:04 kriswest

Kris West / NatWest 🚀

kriswest avatar Apr 17 '25 14:04 kriswest

Julianna Langston / interop.io

julianna-ciq avatar Apr 17 '25 14:04 julianna-ciq

Johan Sandersson / Here 🎁

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Chris Watson / Elgin White 👋

SeeWhatsOn avatar Apr 17 '25 14:04 SeeWhatsOn

Pavlo Vozniuk / RBC CM 🦁

pvoznyuk avatar Apr 17 '25 14:04 pvoznyuk

Rob Moffat / FINOS

robmoffat avatar Apr 17 '25 14:04 robmoffat

Paul Goldsmith / Morgan Stanley

paulgoldsmith avatar Apr 17 '25 14:04 paulgoldsmith

Pierre Baize / Here

pbaize avatar Apr 17 '25 14:04 pbaize

Giles Roadnight / Morgan Stanley 🚀

Roaders avatar Apr 17 '25 14:04 Roaders

Leslie Spiro / interop.io

lspiro-Tick42 avatar Apr 17 '25 14:04 lspiro-Tick42

Derek Novavi / S&P Global

novavi avatar Apr 17 '25 14:04 novavi