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Feature: Add setting to makes delete permanently delete items by default
Description
Files are undeletable if I turn off "show a confirmation dialogue when deleting files" but I still get a green checkmark for the operation.
Steps To Reproduce
Go to recycle bin click on properties. turn on "dont move files to recycle bin" go to files app turn off the "show a confirmation dialogue" in preferences try to delete a file
Expected behavior
File gets deleted
Files Version
Version: 2.0.34.0 OS Version: 10.0.22000.376
Windows Version
Edition Windows 11 Pro Version 21H2 Installed on 06/11/2021 OS build 22000.376 Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22000.376.0
Relevant Assets/Logs
Example of the deletion process on files compared to files explorer https://youtu.be/cCRKiRlO4HI
The ongoing tasks section with the green checkmark. https://i.imgur.com/9WbyiEM.png
Using Shift+Delete should work as a workaround.
Can confirm
This issue should be resolved with #7500
Not sure if its right to re-open this but its up to you or I can create a new issue.
While this is fixed, I now get a confirmation to delete even when confirmations are disabled.
https://i.imgur.com/92eqy1j.png
https://i.imgur.com/q1L1R01.png
Yeah, behavior was changed so that if recycle bin is turned off you'll get confirmation, unless you press "Shift+Delete". This is because currently we can't distinguish between a drive where the user disabled the recyclebin from a drive that does not have recyclebin to begin with (e.g removable drives or network drives). I believe Explorer removes confirmation only in the first case.
Edit: perhaps we get the infp from this key -> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\BitBucket\Volume
Yeah, behavior was changed so that if recycle bin is turned off you'll get confirmation, unless you press "Shift+Delete". This is because currently we can't distinguish between a drive where the user disabled the recyclebin from a drive that does not have recyclebin to begin with (e.g removable drives or network drives). I believe Explorer removes confirmation only in the first case.
Edit: perhaps we get the infp from this key -> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\BitBucket\Volume
The whole point is that I dont want confirmation when deleting files and I dont need recycle bin, I have no idea why this has to be hard.
Cause if you delete a file thinking it's going to the bin but instead it gets permanently deleted without warning you're not gonna be happy.
Guess the simple alternative is to add an option called "always delete files permanently" in addition to the one for displaying confirmation.
@yaichenbaum any thoughts?
I wouldn't mind this at all.
Cause if you delete a file thinking it's going to the bin but instead it gets permanently deleted without warning you're not gonna be happy.
Guess the simple alternative is to add an option called "always delete files permanently" in addition to the one for displaying confirmation.
@yaichenbaum any thoughts?
Personally, I use the ctrl + shift + delete shortcut for that, but this can be useful for touch users. I'm hesitant to add something that can cause data loss like this since most users expect items to go to recycle bin.
Cause if you delete a file thinking it's going to the bin but instead it gets permanently deleted without warning you're not gonna be happy.
Guess the simple alternative is to add an option called "always delete files permanently" in addition to the one for displaying confirmation.
@yaichenbaum any thoughts?
Personally, I use the ctrl + shift + delete shortcut for that, but this can be useful for touch users. I'm hesitant to add something that can cause data loss like this since most users expect items to go to recycle bin.
As an option? Do people really fuck up simple stuff like this?
I lost count on how many people asked for help after uninstalling Files without turning this setting off.
I lost count on how many people asked for help after uninstalling Files without turning this setting off.
Then perhaps instead of settings make this only found in the config file?
That sounds reasonable
If you do, can you please update this issue ? Much thanks
Is this still an issue?
I think it's already fixed
I just checked and no its not fixed.
This was implemented in v2.4.33