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Mode of inheritance for Orphanet entries

Open pnrobinson opened this issue 6 months ago • 5 comments

There are many orphanet entries such as ORPHA:791 Retinitis pigmentosa - autosomal dominant/recessive that group together many specific diseases that are either dominant or recessive but not both. It would be good to choose the MOI for the specific genes - this can be done with HPO resources, among other sources. Otherwise, this leads to false positive results.

pnrobinson avatar Jun 22 '25 10:06 pnrobinson

Orphanet again... @damiansm perhaps it's time to test removing the Orphanet annotations again? Otherwise I'll look into removing Orphanet nodes which contain multiple OMIM nodes.

julesjacobsen avatar Jul 17 '25 11:07 julesjacobsen

Lets review how we are doing this again but I think we try and take HPO MOI annotations where possible? But for https://hpo.jax.org/browse/disease/ORPHA:791 there is no MOI HPO code as it is so mixed presumably and the individual genes such as https://hpo.jax.org/browse/gene/NCBIGene:50939 have a code for AD and AR as it is at the gene rather disease-gene level. Is only when we get to OMIM annotations that things make sense.

I think a lot of Orphanet nodes group together OMIM codes so removing all of those is probably not going to work well either.

Is there a MONDO solution?

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damiansm avatar Jul 17 '25 11:07 damiansm

I think it would be difficult to use Mondo in its current state because it also is not accurate about the genetics of CNV syndromes (e.g. https://monarchinitiative.org/MONDO:0008678 shows two causal genes using the same relationship as Mendelian diseases. A good workaround could be to just manually mark certain ORPHA entries as CNVs -- this is where the problem is coming from. I have seen artefacts related to Williams syndrome very frequently, but also occasionally see other CNV related artefacts. To do this in an easy way, we could look for strings like this in the Orpha data:

https://www.orpha.net/en/disease/detail/904

Deletion 7q11.23 Monosomy 7q11.23

and if we see keywords such as "Deletion" and the entry contains multiple genes, then flag it for manual review. Then we can create a list of items to be excluded. Is this coming from HPOA file or somewhere else though?

pnrobinson avatar Jul 17 '25 12:07 pnrobinson

We are probably mixing up a couple of related issues now in this issue.

For the original RP example, I think most of these genes really are single gene associated with non-syndromic RP in OMIM but there are just so many of RP genes nowadays with different MOIs. We know dropping Orphanet annotations completely reduces performance but in this example it would be much nicer if we were just matching to the individual OMIM annotations where we know the exact gene and MOI. The problem is how to identify these examples. Maybe something pragmatic like don't use the Orphanet annotations where there are > X genes associated and/or with mixed MOIs for the genes.

Then there are the CNV syndromes associated with lots of genes but where you don't want to treat them all the same as Mendelian single gene diseases as you say. I have a feeling we already have that one solved in Exomiser IF the entry is flagged as a CNV syndrome but I may be getting mixed up and Jules and will know better. Maybe only the OMIM entries are correctly flagged?

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I think it would be difficult to use Mondo in its current state because it also is not accurate about the genetics of CNV syndromes (e.g. https://monarchinitiative.org/MONDO:0008678 shows two causal genes using the same relationship as Mendelian diseases. A good workaround could be to just manually mark certain ORPHA entries as CNVs -- this is where the problem is coming from. I have seen artefacts related to Williams syndrome very frequently, but also occasionally see other CNV related artefacts. To do this in an easy way, we could look for strings like this in the Orpha data:

https://www.orpha.net/en/disease/detail/904

Deletion 7q11.23 Monosomy 7q11.23

and if we see keywords such as "Deletion" and the entry contains multiple genes, then flag it for manual review. Then we can create a list of items to be excluded. Is this coming from HPOA file or somewhere else though?

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damiansm avatar Jul 17 '25 14:07 damiansm

Hang on, @pnrobinson where are you seeing a problem? Exomiser stores Disease-Gene-MOI triplets as a 'disease', so this is all as it should be, no?

SELECT * from DISEASE WHERE DISEASE_ID = 'ORPHA:791';
DISEASE_ID OMIM_GENE_ID DISEASENAME GENE_ID TYPE INHERITANCE
ORPHA:791 OMIM:611611 Retinitis pigmentosa 49855 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:600595 Retinitis pigmentosa 8100 D B
ORPHA:791 OMIM:609346 Retinitis pigmentosa 92840 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:616432 Retinitis pigmentosa 23370 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:209901 Retinitis pigmentosa 582 D B
ORPHA:791 OMIM:613344 Retinitis pigmentosa 57670 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:608894 Retinitis pigmentosa 54806 D B
ORPHA:791 OMIM:615900 Retinitis pigmentosa 60509 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:612013 Retinitis pigmentosa 57545 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:601691 Retinitis pigmentosa 24 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:610598 Retinitis pigmentosa 768206 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:607301 Retinitis pigmentosa 9129 D D
ORPHA:791 OMIM:606419 Retinitis pigmentosa 26121 D D
ORPHA:791 OMIM:607300 Retinitis pigmentosa 10594 D D
ORPHA:791 OMIM:179605 Retinitis pigmentosa 5961 D B
ORPHA:791 OMIM:608830 Retinitis pigmentosa 145226 D B
ORPHA:791 OMIM:600342 Retinitis pigmentosa 5995 D B
ORPHA:791 OMIM:180380 Retinitis pigmentosa 6010 D B
ORPHA:791 OMIM:180090 Retinitis pigmentosa 6017 D B
ORPHA:791 OMIM:180721 Retinitis pigmentosa 6094 D B
ORPHA:791 OMIM:603937 Retinitis pigmentosa 6101 D B
ORPHA:791 OMIM:300757 Retinitis pigmentosa 6102 D X
ORPHA:791 OMIM:607331 Retinitis pigmentosa 6100 D D
ORPHA:791 OMIM:180069 Retinitis pigmentosa 6121 D D
ORPHA:791 OMIM:180069 Retinitis pigmentosa 6121 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:312610 Retinitis pigmentosa 6103 D X
ORPHA:791 OMIM:181031 Retinitis pigmentosa 6295 D D
ORPHA:791 OMIM:181031 Retinitis pigmentosa 6295 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:606151 Retinitis pigmentosa 583 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:607854 Retinitis pigmentosa 7439 D D
ORPHA:791 OMIM:114760 Retinitis pigmentosa 762 D B
ORPHA:791 OMIM:608381 Retinitis pigmentosa 375298 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:608132 Retinitis pigmentosa 123016 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:602280 Retinitis pigmentosa 7287 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:608400 Retinitis pigmentosa 7399 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:606397 Retinitis pigmentosa 7401 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:123825 Retinitis pigmentosa 1259 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:604210 Retinitis pigmentosa 23418 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:602225 Retinitis pigmentosa 1406 D B
ORPHA:791 OMIM:608845 Retinitis pigmentosa 84100 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:607643 Retinitis pigmentosa 25794 D D
ORPHA:791 OMIM:610453 Retinitis pigmentosa 138050 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:146690 Retinitis pigmentosa 3614 D D
ORPHA:791 OMIM:604705 Retinitis pigmentosa 10461 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:604485 Retinitis pigmentosa 10002 D B
ORPHA:791 OMIM:162080 Retinitis pigmentosa 4901 D D
ORPHA:791 OMIM:300170 Retinitis pigmentosa 8481 D XR
ORPHA:791 OMIM:180071 Retinitis pigmentosa 5145 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:180072 Retinitis pigmentosa 5158 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:607292 Retinitis pigmentosa 64218 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:600724 Retinitis pigmentosa 1258 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:609507 Retinitis pigmentosa 10210 D D
ORPHA:791 OMIM:604365 Retinitis pigmentosa 8842 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:604863 Retinitis pigmentosa 9227 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:612424 Retinitis pigmentosa 346007 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:604526 Retinitis pigmentosa 3420 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:609868 Retinitis pigmentosa 55812 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:602275 Retinitis pigmentosa 2979 D D
ORPHA:791 OMIM:611119 Retinitis pigmentosa 55975 D D
ORPHA:791 OMIM:601664 Retinitis pigmentosa 23020 D D
ORPHA:791 OMIM:613425 Retinitis pigmentosa 388939 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:180073 Retinitis pigmentosa 5148 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:607056 Retinitis pigmentosa 50939 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:613596 Retinitis pigmentosa 84140 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:613598 Retinitis pigmentosa 130557 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:609502 Retinitis pigmentosa 92211 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:608172 Retinitis pigmentosa 79947 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:613979 Retinitis pigmentosa 24148 D D
ORPHA:791 OMIM:154235 Retinitis pigmentosa 4117 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:180290 Retinitis pigmentosa 5949 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:614477 Retinitis pigmentosa 157657 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:614620 Retinitis pigmentosa 9742 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:616454 Retinitis pigmentosa 79797 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:615407 Retinitis pigmentosa 23568 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:604043 Retinitis pigmentosa 4751 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:607386 Retinitis pigmentosa 26160 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:601197 Retinitis pigmentosa 7275 D B
ORPHA:791 OMIM:615757 Retinitis pigmentosa 55857 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:615720 Retinitis pigmentosa 57709 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:607795 Retinitis pigmentosa 9128 D D
ORPHA:791 OMIM:608581 Retinitis pigmentosa 94137 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:600253 Retinitis pigmentosa 196 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:602870 Retinitis pigmentosa 3617 D B
ORPHA:791 OMIM:601149 Retinitis pigmentosa 3419 D B
ORPHA:791 OMIM:605584 Retinitis pigmentosa 9785 D R
ORPHA:791 OMIM:604695 Retinitis pigmentosa 403 D D
ORPHA:791 OMIM:606822 Retinitis pigmentosa 55624 D R

julesjacobsen avatar Jul 17 '25 16:07 julesjacobsen