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Open lys623 opened this issue 1 year ago • 33 comments

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lys623 avatar Jun 21 '23 03:06 lys623

How to avoid being banned?

lys623 avatar Jun 21 '23 03:06 lys623

Seems like Midjourney starts blocking users. I Just got this message. block

Dominapp avatar Jun 21 '23 08:06 Dominapp

@Dominapp can you give some insights what happened prior to the ban?

  • When / how many requests did you send to Midjourney?
  • Did you send requests in the same interval?
  • Were there any messages to react to from the bot before? E.g. to prove that you are human.

tomfab avatar Jun 21 '23 08:06 tomfab

  • I have sent 2,767 total and 2700 by the API.
  • No. randomly with real users (I replaced SD API with MJ)
  • Not much. I actually subscribe to MJ for the API but I also have discord open on my desktop and I play with upscale and open images manually. Hope MJ will have an official API soon but now SD is probably the only option

Dominapp avatar Jun 22 '23 08:06 Dominapp

@Dominapp Thanks. I'm wondering how they detected it then, since the usage doesn't really give away that this is a bot user.

tomfab avatar Jun 22 '23 11:06 tomfab

Me too. I dead :|

njho avatar Jun 27 '23 13:06 njho

@njho How would you describe your usage? Any detectable patterns?

tomfab avatar Jun 27 '23 17:06 tomfab

image

I generated 24 images per day, 1 image per hour, and got banned again.

chenka avatar Jun 29 '23 08:06 chenka

image

I generated 24 images per day, 1 image per hour, and got banned again.

same here.

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generate image per hour

tomfanhm avatar Jul 09 '23 06:07 tomfanhm

Does anyone have any insight into why Midjourney specifically is so against api access?

Surely this is how they would make money, and if you're within the limits of your account (in terms of number of requests) then it shouldn't make any difference to there infrastructure management.

I'm really confused - feels like they have some philosophical rejection of giving broader access which makes no sense to me.

LukeFerris avatar Jul 28 '23 09:07 LukeFerris

Anyone know if clicking Acknowledge helps/is required?

njho avatar Aug 05 '23 08:08 njho

Anyone know if clicking Acknowledge helps/is required?

Just tell you that you are banned. “You have a pending moderation message. Please acknowledge it before using the bot further. Your account has been temporarily blocked due to suspicious activity.”

tomfanhm avatar Aug 07 '23 09:08 tomfanhm

Also having this issue. Banned for 14 days. Does anyone have a solution or have you managed to identify the cause?

After your 14-day ban, did you continue?

Having 2 of 4 accounts banned, same methodology

AlexandreFuchsWeb avatar Aug 11 '23 19:08 AlexandreFuchsWeb

@AlexandreFuchsWeb I'm currently utilizing the Mega Plan account and generating thousands of images daily without any problems, even with massive concurrent requests. My project involves full-blown live stories streaming with chatgpt, and Midjourney's been handling it without a hitch. That said, they are indeed profiting substantially from my usage as I'm having to pay for massive amounts of extra fast hours since using Turbo exclusively ( but it makes sense business-wise for us ).

It would be enlightening to understand the membership levels of those experiencing bans. My impression is that Mega Plan account users have greater flexibility, while those on free or basic plans might face restrictions leading to bans. If there are cases of Mega Membership users being banned, I'd be eager to hear about them.

Recently, I had discussions with Stability and Microsoft execs in person, exploring alternatives to Midjourney. The possibility of completely transitioning away from Midjourney exists, especially if they continue banning users and fail to provide an API. Microsoft's stance is DALL-E will outperform all others in the long run. Although presently, Midjourney’s consistency and alignment with my storylines remain unmatched. I'm able to generate full-fledged books on the fly in under 1 minute with 30 images that have the exact same character in different poses.

With competition like Leonardo entering the scene with new APIs, Midjourney's decision to ban users doesn't seem strategically sound. Our project is backed by significant funding, and our endorsement would translate to extensive free marketing for the AI company we ultimately choose to partner with. Would be Midjourney's loss.

ALSO: The Microsoft guys told me that the Midjourney guys are just a bunch of nerdy researchers with ZERO business mindset so that might be part of the problem. They likely fail to understand the market and probably don't have the engineering prowess to scale at the level they would need to if they opened up their API. Just from my business alone, they'd be getting millions of concurrent requests per minute as soon as we go live.

alexhawkins avatar Aug 12 '23 04:08 alexhawkins

@alexhawkins i have 4 accounts with pro plan billing annualy. I had no problems for about 2 months and then all of a sudden 2 accounts fell off in the morning and one in the evening. The MEGA Plan would be too expensive to use because I just need to run relax mode 24 hours a day.

As for the rest of your message, I totally agree and that's what I think too. The fact remains that they've just banned me from 3 accounts on which I spent $576 each.

And at the moment, the competition isn't up to their standards, so it's very problematic for my service if it goes on like this.

I've added randomness to my generations and tried to reproduce human behavior as much as possible, so we'll see what happens.

AlexandreFuchsWeb avatar Aug 12 '23 07:08 AlexandreFuchsWeb

@AlexandreFuchsWeb wow, that's wild and concerning. Thanks for sharing. How many images are you creating over a period of 24 hours and what sort of images if you don't mind me asking ( although doubt that has anything to do with it )?

How are these guys selling access to the Midjourney api through their own 3rd party service getting around it then? I mean they're basically just using this api and then selling that service. There are couple guys doing it I've seen and they're confident they won't get shutdown.

alexhawkins avatar Aug 12 '23 18:08 alexhawkins

SD API access works well.

rossman22590 avatar Aug 12 '23 20:08 rossman22590

@alexhawkins approximately 1500 per account per day. And only soft stock photos with daily situations.

Yes yes i dont know ... cant figure how we get caught.

For SD, its actually very far for the results of MJ

AlexandreFuchsWeb avatar Aug 13 '23 08:08 AlexandreFuchsWeb

Hello, colleagues! I just lost 15 accounts with the Standard tariff. In 48 hours, I had 700 generation in relax mode on each account. Then I got banned almost at the same time.

antomin avatar Oct 23 '23 12:10 antomin

@alexhawkins每个帐户每天大约 1500 个。并且只有日常情况的软库存照片。

是的,是的,我不知道……不知道我们是怎么被抓住的。

对于SD来说,其实和MJ的成绩相差甚远

I'm in the same situation, have you found a solution to this?

yinadea avatar Nov 03 '23 03:11 yinadea

Hello, until today, I have been a registered member with a pro account since August 2022 on Midjourney. I was banned today, and I am not sure of the reason. The only activity I engaged in before the ban was copying prompts from the images in the members' gallery and creating my own images. Upon retrospectively reviewing the images created in the last few hours, I didn't find anything suspicious that would explain the account block, except possibly for this prompt:

"slim thick Rita Hayworth::1.33 contre-jour lighting::1.25 full body tattoos skintight paperthin poolwear::1.25 delicate skin::0.5 --ar 9:16 --style raw --v 5.2"

Are there any words in this prompt that might have led to the account block without any warning?

If not, could the ban on my account be the result of an error?

Krypix avatar Dec 02 '23 05:12 Krypix

It is not related, I am mega user but still got banned. No request or inquiry is told how to handle it

chala025 avatar Dec 15 '23 09:12 chala025

The account has been used normally before, after a weekend to use the prompt account was blocked

wangsimplekong avatar Dec 21 '23 06:12 wangsimplekong

+1

foundVanting avatar Dec 25 '23 02:12 foundVanting

  • 1 (lost 4 accounts this month)

when MJ will open their API?!!! Are there any alternative we can use?

https://github.com/erictik/midjourney-api/issues/269

jimmy-o avatar Apr 11 '24 03:04 jimmy-o

  • 1 (lost 4 accounts this month)

when MJ will open their API?!!! Are there any alternative we can use?

#269

you can use leonardo, they offer API services with similar quality.

https://app.leonardo.ai/

raymerjacque avatar Apr 11 '24 03:04 raymerjacque

thanks @raymerjacque I've tried Leonardo, seems still not as good as Midjourney. Maybe I've got the wrong model. : (

jimmy-o avatar Apr 11 '24 12:04 jimmy-o

thanks @raymerjacque I've tried Leonardo, seems still not as good as Midjourney. Maybe I've got the wrong model. : (

i dont think anything is as good as midjourney, but a few do come close. the problem is you will keep getting banned with midjourney. i stopped using them more than a year ago already. not because of the banning issue, i just wasnt happy with the setup in general. found much easier routes.

raymerjacque avatar Apr 11 '24 14:04 raymerjacque

ok. Today I lost 2 more new accounts. (both still have 28h fast hours left but banned by Midjourney)

MJ even banned my IP address.

It's very frustrating journey so far.

I wonder how those websites selling Midjourney APIs can still running without any issue. e.g. https://mymidjourney.ai how this site can manage MJ upstream without being banned. He is selling APIs, he must have more usage than my case.

jimmy-o avatar Apr 24 '24 00:04 jimmy-o

From what I know they have exactly two ways to detect you. First when you log into their website, they take the browser fingerprint and your IP. Second when you download the image, they also get your IP. It should be avoidable if you use mobile IPs to access the resources.

maddo7 avatar May 14 '24 08:05 maddo7