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Incorrect End Of Life for Ubuntu
Recently Cannonical released info about longer support for 14.04 and 16.04.
https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-14-04-and-16-04-lifecycle-extended-to-ten-years
So currently the site shows incorrect data.
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As far as i understand that posting Canonical is extending the paid support.
currently we list only the free support range for Ubuntu.
In my opinion we should add the paid option here.
Any other thoughts? @endoflife-date/everyone
I forgot when, but ubuntu changed their Release wiki layout and "End of Life" difinition without Extended Security Maintenance. Current ubuntu's EOL seems end of Extended Security Maintenance. (but I want to know both of non paid EOL and paid EOL)
- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
- https://web.archive.org/web/20190405151816/https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
In my opinion we should add the paid option here.
At first I felt "endoflife.date" will track mainly non paid support EOL, but I agree this. "EOL" will include any support for any product. I think.
We should provide details for all users, irrespective of whether they are paying for support or not. To prioritise, we can use what’s more commonly used, but both EoL dates should be visible clearly with distinction. (Planning to add something like this to Guiding Principles on Wiki soon).
I guess having a third column would be the best option here, but since we don’t support that, should we just duplicate rows instead for now?
Actually as I've been skimming the docs it looks like Extended Security Maintenance (ESM) is available for free for personal use as well, so it's not just like for paid users.
- https://ubuntu.com/security/esm
ESM is available through an Ubuntu Advantage for Infrastructure subscription for physical servers, virtual machines, containers and desktops, and is free for personal use.
- https://ubuntu.com/advantage
Free for personal use Anyone can use UA-I Essential for free on up to 3 machines, or 50 if you are an official Ubuntu Community member.
but i do agree that details should include both paid as well as non-paid plans.
ESM is free for personal use, but you need to register (for Ubuntu Advantage for Infrastructure) and it's only for 3 machines (or 50 if you also register for official Ubuntu Community membership).
Would this be resolved with https://github.com/endoflife-date/endoflife.date/pull/421 ?
I don't think it's a good idea to have the ESM date as the end of security support for the reasons mentioned above.
Image representations are not enough - both the text and table need to reflect the same information. This is also important for accessibility reasons.
Let's create new rows for the supported ESM releases, and update our text on ESM availability to reflect @grmpyninja's findings.
Image representations are not enough - both the text and table need to reflect the same information. This is also important for accessibility reasons.
I agree with this. Ideally, all the EOL dates could be machine-readable via the API so that some form of scripting can be built around them. If it's an image, it's not possible.
Planning to work on a new column feature (for #1254) to showcase Commercial/Extended Support. Will include Ubuntu ESM in the changes alongside.
Looks like it was by #779. @captn3m0 / @Evernow, should this change be reverted ?
The consensus (in a discussion that I can't find) was to cover ESM as default, since the Ubuntu Pro feature is now available for free subscriptions. Canonical specifically calls out ESM dates as End-of-Life dates, so they align better by definition as well.
That does screw up things for servers and enterprise however. I'm unsure of how we can track this better. Especially, wrt the API, since an SBOM of both servers does pretty much look identical, and I'm not sure if ubuntu-pro tooling even exposes this information somewhere easily.
From what I can see the dates has been updated by #779. The most comprehensive discussion I found on the subject was on #163 (which led to https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu.com/issues/8725#issuecomment-931580009).
ESM dates are now tracked in the Extended Security Maintenance column, see https://endoflife.date/ubuntu.