element-hq
Make it a policy to never show Labs when `"show_labs_settings": false`
Your use case
What would you like to do?
Never show the Labs tab in settings unless show_labs_settings is enabled.
Why would you like to do it?
It's extremely confusing for users that the Labs tab appears but only has one or two features in it. Many people in #element-web:matrix.org have been confused by this.
How would you like to achieve it?
If a feature is in beta but we want to allow more people to try it, then it should come out of the Labs tab and be placed elsewhere in settings.
Have you considered any alternatives?
https://github.com/vector-im/element-web/issues/8498
or
Show all of the Labs settings but have them disabled with a sentence saying these are only available when show_labs_settings is enabled.
Additional context
No response
It's a good idea, I've set the show_labs_settings to false, but continues to appear to users, and it would be good whether it doesn't appear.
This seems to have regressed. On app.element.io which is running 1.11.21, I see this:
@aaronraimist based on the PR description I disagree
If Labs are disabled, only Betas are shown. If there are no Betas and Labs are enabled, only Labs are shown. If Labs are disabled and there are no betas, the tab is not displayed
@t3chguy The PR description matches exactly what I wanted but that isn't what got implemented.
Apparently I missed this comment https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-react-sdk/pull/8969#issuecomment-1281886948 and this commit https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-react-sdk/pull/8969/commits/3bd9d0bf29e2f224719b31dec06f1f87e8e01a2e
Keep the "Labs" name in the Settings menu, for the sake of simplicity.
The name of the tab was the major thing I found confusing.
Here's another recent example of someone being confused by it https://matrix.to/#/!YTvKGNlinIzlkMTVRl:matrix.org/$fJbROknwyPsIdyNPAN2R54ifcxtCxY9fv0K1Jq-L7J4?via=matrix.org&via=privacytools.io&via=mozilla.org
yeah I suggested changing the config name at the time, guess it didn't occur
Hello! I will have to agree on this. There is no point in showing Labs, when they are off. ESPECIALLY not the ones that don't even work properly yet, like BETAS.
All Labs page should be GONE, when the settting is "show_labs_settings": false
Only this makes sense. And then we can discuss, on separate option for enabling beta options (like "show_beta_labs_settings": true/false) , so the homeserver admins would have an option to decide id they want to enable it. Most of us wont, because clients wont need these features at all.
Thank You.
yeah I suggested changing the config name at the time, guess it didn't occur
Argh, yeah, we really did forget to change the name...
Are there any updates on this? We still get the lab in the menu with show_labs_settings:false
Yeah "show_labs_settings" set to false still shows Labs stuff, even beta, with v1.11.109, this needs to be honoured as a setting please!
