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[RFC] Use UN Life Cycle Assessment of Electricity Generation Options gCO2-eq/kWh values for EU28.

Open VIKTORVAV99 opened this issue 2 years ago • 10 comments

Consider using the UN Life Cycle Assessment of Electricity Generation Options reports gCO2-eq/kWh values for EU28

The UN has published a report that contains LCAs for several modes of electricity production with specific values for EU28, I would propose we use these values for EU28 countries (current EU countries + UK) as an interim solution until #738 is finalized.

Link to the report: https://unece.org/sites/default/files/2021-10/LCA-2.pdf

Table with current value and the proposed UN value we should use:

PER KWH Type Current UN EU28 value
Hard Coal PC, without CSS 820 1000 (highest coal value)
Natural Gas NGCC, without CCS 490 430 (highest gas value)
Hydro 660 MW 24 150
Hydro 360 MW 24 11
Nuclear average 12 5.1
Solar poly-Si, ground-mounted / roof-mounted 45 37 (highest photovoltaic value)
Wind onshore 11 12

Full details of UN EU28 values on page 74 of the report (PDF page 84)

I realize hydro is probably not an option to implement but the others should be pretty straight forward, especially Gas, Nuclear, Solar and Wind.

VIKTORVAV99 avatar May 20 '22 09:05 VIKTORVAV99

If the highest possible value from the report is lower than the IPPC 2014 average ElectricityMap is using now, it makes sense to use the lower value. However, if the value from the report is higher we probably shouldn't switch. After all, we don't know if a plant is using Pulverized Coal technology (the worst option, worse than current coal carbon intensity value) or Supercritical (the best option, lower than current coal carbon intensity value)

q-- avatar May 20 '22 20:05 q--

If the highest possible value from the report is lower than the IPPC 2014 average ElectricityMap is using now, it makes sense to use the lower value. However, if the value from the report is higher we probably shouldn't switch. After all, we don't know if a plant is using Pulverized Coal technology (the worst option, worse than current coal carbon intensity value) or Supercritical (the best option, lower than current coal carbon intensity value)

Makes sense, that would mean just the values for Gas, Nuclear and Solar.

But what do you think of the switch for wind? Everyone would be using the same "type" there (electricityMap don't split out offshore yet) so should the higher value be used there or do you think we should still use the lower.

As a side note: We could also use the UN values for local overrides for coal/gas/wind if the production mode is known, this is already being done for Estonia (with EASAC 2007 values for fossil shale oil) so there is a precedent for it.

VIKTORVAV99 avatar May 20 '22 20:05 VIKTORVAV99

Just realized we use the Pulverized Coal values from IPCC currently so it would make sense to also use the UN values for PC as well when we don't know the exact coal source.

VIKTORVAV99 avatar May 24 '22 11:05 VIKTORVAV99

@pierresegonne you seem to be the "data guy", what do you think of this?

VIKTORVAV99 avatar May 25 '22 12:05 VIKTORVAV99

Hey @VIKTORVAV99, "data guy" speaking. thanks for raising awareness around this new assessment! It is very exhaustive and is definitely a good lead for helping us update the emission factors.

I'm not too keen on changing the factors right now. We're planning to start working on #738 in June, so I don't think the effort (notably because we would need to communicate about this change) is worth making the emission factors more up-to-date for just a few weeks.

On top of my mind, I also see a slight challenge in adopting these emission factors. They're much more specific than ours, with e.g pulverised vs hard coal, which would force us to either take averages respective to the proportion of each technology in the world, or informed guesses by region (e.g if a country uses only hard coal).

pierresegonne avatar May 30 '22 13:05 pierresegonne

Hey @VIKTORVAV99, "data guy" speaking. thanks for raising awareness around this new assessment! It is very exhaustive and is definitely a good lead for helping us update the emission factors.

I'm not too keen on changing the factors right now. We're planning to start working on #738 in June, so I don't think the effort (notably because we would need to communicate about this change) is worth making the emission factors more up-to-date for just a few weeks.

Ah I didn't realize you had planned on finalizing #738 so soon so that makes sense!

They're much more specific than ours, with e.g pulverised vs hard coal, which would force us to either take averages respective to the proportion of each technology in the world, or informed guesses by region (e.g if a country uses only hard coal).

For coal specifically I don't think it is a problem as IPCC uses pulverized coal as it's basis for the value we use now but I see what you mean.

Perhaps the backend could be opened up to accept more production modes (all modes that are currently in the ENTSO-E parser maybe) and then combine them on the backend side (instead of in the parser) and generate the gCO2-eq values dynamically for each "combined production mode"?

Example: 50% offshore wind + 50% onshore wind will give wind a co2eq of $ 12\times0,5 + 14\times0,5 = 13 $ instead of 12 like it would for wind now. (UN numbers)

VIKTORVAV99 avatar May 30 '22 13:05 VIKTORVAV99

The numbers for GHG-emissions of nuclear energy from the UN are not realistic (5-12 g/kWh CO2-eq.). At least, they should be discussed!

For germany, there are much higher numbers assumed: 22,3 g/kWh Co2-eq.

Study for GHG-emissions from the Umweltbundesamt: 22,37 CO2-Äq. (g/kWh) The World Information Service of Energy (WISE) is calculating in this study with 117 g/kWh CO2-Equivalent. You might argue, WISE is not agnostic to atomic energy, but there are other independant studies which show similar results: Stanford University Study is calculating 68-180 g/kWh in this study.

Please use realistic and regional green-house gas emissions for nuclear energy, as the current used values which are derived from 2014 from IPCC (12 g/kWH) are not realistic.

archie-bal avatar Jun 01 '22 19:06 archie-bal

Hi @VIKTORVAV99, thanks for mentioning the UN work, I was the main author of the report, so I can definitely help with the emission factors (just in case you need it @pierresegonne :)).

The method you suggest @VIKTORVAV99 is indeed what would need to be done: collect the mix of technologies within each category for each grid on a given year, and calculate the aggregate factors for these broad categories. The REMIND model I used for the report has 12 world regions, but we can imagine a finer resolution as long as we have parameters such as load factors and origin of coal/gas/uranium.

thomasgibon avatar Jun 01 '22 20:06 thomasgibon

, but there are other independant studies which show similar results: Stanford University Study is calculating 68-180 g/kWh in this study.

Quote from your article:

Jacobson (2009) presented life cycle analyses for different electricity generation technologies and included also so called “opportunity cost emissions”, i.e. CO2 costs due to delays from planning to operation where a faster deployable technology could have avoided emissions

Yeah, that's not going to work for ElectricityMap. "What if someone built something else - but faster?" is useless for this project's purpose, especially since most most NPPs in operation today were built when the (economically) realistic alternatives did not include solar or wind but only fossil fuels.

(To avoid cluttering the issue too much, I suggest opening a discussion if you want to discuss the subject further.)

q-- avatar Jun 01 '22 21:06 q--

The method you suggest @VIKTORVAV99 is indeed what would need to be done: collect the mix of technologies within each category for each grid on a given year, and calculate the aggregate factors for these broad categories.

@thomasgibon this is currently how we generate static emission factors for unknown production (several mixed sources that are unknown at the time) (per year if possible). What I propose is opening up the parser for more production modes so we can generate the emission factors dynamically in real time (hourly granularity currently), so it will differ somewhat but will be the same general principle and method but it will require some backend changes.

I would also like to take the opportunity say thanks for the detailed and extensive report!

VIKTORVAV99 avatar Jun 01 '22 22:06 VIKTORVAV99