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Proposing alternate game mode "Superset"

Open TungE opened this issue 4 years ago • 5 comments

Now that infrastructure for alternate game modes has been built, it may not be overly difficult to add other variants of Set, such as Superset. Superset can simply be described as Set but with an additional characteristic (e.g. give each card a border with one of three colors).

TungE avatar Feb 04 '21 03:02 TungE

Bump, is this still being worked on?

ekzhang avatar Feb 27 '21 06:02 ekzhang

Yes, I apologize for the inactivity as I've been preoccupied recently. I'm interested in this feature but I'm not sure how to develop for it because it requires some backend changes. Is there a way I can test the backend changes as I develop?

TungE avatar Feb 27 '21 15:02 TungE

Yes, we can add you as an editor on the Firebase staging server. Are you on the Discord server? Please send me your Google account email, and I can get you access.

ekzhang avatar Feb 28 '21 06:02 ekzhang

A few comments:

  1. I recommend a different name, as SuperSet already has a well-accepted meaning. Perhaps "5-dimensional SET", "3^5 SET", or "243 SET". (I also recommend changing the name of this issue for clarity.)
  2. Note that the deck size will triple to 243, and since 5d sets are harder to find, game length will almost certainly more than triple. I suspect this game mode will not actually be fun, but I haven't tried it. Has anyone tried this mode before?
  3. The board will have to expand.
    1. In 3^4 SET, the initial board of 12 has 2.8 sets on average and 3% probability of no sets. As the game goes on, these odds worsen (fewer sets on average, higher probability of no sets). The worst possible board (cap set) is 20 cards (or 21 since it's dealt in 3s).
    2. In 3^5 SET, the initial board should have more than 2.8 sets on average, since they are harder to find. I would start with playtesting 20, which has 4.7 sets on average. (I don't know the the probability of no sets.) The cap set is 45 cards. I think you would want to add more than 3 cards at a time. Perhaps 5?
  4. I have printed a deck and played with "4^3 SET", which worked okay, but the original "3^4 SET" is more fun.

NilsEnevoldsen avatar Apr 12 '21 14:04 NilsEnevoldsen

Board game manuals Wiki calls the variant "Mega-Set" and suggests 15-16 cards initially.

NilsEnevoldsen avatar Apr 12 '21 14:04 NilsEnevoldsen