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Rename conly to enable_cxx and flip default behavior

Open jsharpe opened this issue 4 years ago • 9 comments

This is a suggestion that the default of using C++ configuration is the wrong choice. Most python extensions are written in C and the behaviour of passing a c++ only flag e.g. -std=c++17 to a compiler in C mode is generally tolerated but not by all (e.g. clang 13 specifies this as an error).

Surely it is better for the few packages that use C++ to require explicitly opting in to C++ flags? I found that flipping this default didn't break the build of any of the pip packages I am importing.

jsharpe avatar Oct 26 '21 12:10 jsharpe

I imagine that cases where we need to know that this flag even exists (which I did not know) are much less with the current default?

I would need to check how intrusive this is locally. The logic that it breaks clang makes sense especially if our conly flags are wrong for the pip packages in this repo.

jhance avatar Oct 27 '21 03:10 jhance

Okay, we agree that this default makes more sense. But I think the name conly does not make sense if it defaults to True. Instead, lets rename to enable_cxx and default it to False. If you do this I will merge this.

jhance avatar Oct 27 '21 03:10 jhance

@jhance I've updated it to use enable_cxx however I've left the cffi interface using conly as due to the use of kwargs this would probably silently break consumers of this macro. Feel free to change this if you prefer to switch this use too.

jsharpe avatar Oct 27 '21 14:10 jsharpe

I don't agree with your diagnosis of cffi silently breaking due to kwargs. Its passing the kwargs to something that doesn't accept the conly parameter as far as I can tell, so things passing conly=True would still error. That said, easy change to make on my end when I import this.

This will take me longer to import since it is a breaking change for us internally.

jhance avatar Oct 27 '21 15:10 jhance

Ok, I didn't follow through the logic of where kwargs was being used.

jsharpe avatar Oct 27 '21 15:10 jsharpe

@jhance any updates on this PR?

jsharpe avatar Mar 01 '22 09:03 jsharpe

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jsharpe avatar Aug 16 '22 19:08 jsharpe

@jhance did you ever manage to land this change internally?

jsharpe avatar Oct 31 '22 00:10 jsharpe