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Possibility of Handoff on MacBook Air Late 2010 (AirPort Card: BCM94360CS2)

Open joshuapurwadi opened this issue 10 years ago • 49 comments

Hi,

I'm wondering if the upgrade to this card (BCM94360CS2) on MBA Late 2010 is still possible. I believe that I saw MBA Late 2010 in the table in the main page which says Handoff is possible with card upgrade a few days ago but it's magically gone from the table when I checked it just now.

The entry is still there in this thread regarding MBA Late 2010: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=20124161#post20124161

I'm aware that minor tweaks will be required as the card (BCM94360CS2) sized up a bit longer than the original card and the antenna cable will need to be clipped off from the screws' bracket, but I don't really mind as long as Handoff is working with BCM94360CS2.

I hope someone can elaborate in this matter as me myself have already ordered the card and am waiting for it to arrive. I hope that my purchase won't go to waste.

Regards, Josh..

joshuapurwadi avatar Nov 03 '14 07:11 joshuapurwadi

Hi Josh, I had it removed from the table based on a report that the physical differences prevented the card to be installed on 2010 Airs. Maybe I jumped to the conclusion that it was not possible at all. If you or anyone else can confirm (maybe you have a link) that it indeed works on their own machine after a few tweaks, than I'll put it back.

dokterdok avatar Nov 03 '14 07:11 dokterdok

Hi,

UncleSchnitty did a replacement with his MBA2011 before (which has the same antenna layout as MBA2010) and documented the steps he took to alleviate the physical differences. http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1777726&highlight=bcm94360cs2&page=2 http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=19395638&postcount=36

But I'll try to post my findings as well once I got my BCM94360CS2 and attempted the replacement myself. Hope it works.

joshuapurwadi avatar Nov 03 '14 15:11 joshuapurwadi

Josh, thanks for the feedback. I'm looking forward to hear back from your tests.

dokterdok avatar Nov 04 '14 07:11 dokterdok

Thanks Skvo for the update, I've updated the compatibility list

dokterdok avatar Nov 20 '14 20:11 dokterdok

Hi,

I'm using CAT on my Macbook Air Late 2010 model, and I replaced the Airport card to BCM94360CS2. Yes, the physical difference exists.

And because of the different locations of the two antenna sockets on the Airport card, the antenna cable inside Macbook must be rerouted.

The hinge is soldered, so you need to detach it from the cable.

Not the easiest way to get the continuity features, but this is the way I'm using my Macbook Air. FYI, although my blog post is written in Korean, you can see more pics here: http://me.tistory.com/357

Robolkw avatar Nov 22 '14 13:11 Robolkw

Thanks Robolkw! I also used MBA Late 2010 - works perfect!

macjul avatar Nov 26 '14 21:11 macjul

Question for folks who installed BCM94360CS2 in Late 2010 MBA. Did you need to do anything special for it to pick up signal? I picked one up from eBay, card is recognized by the OS but doesn't get any hotspots. The original BCM943224PCIEBT2 works just fine, so I'm fairly certain it's not an issue with the antenna.

bateau avatar Nov 27 '14 00:11 bateau

Hi bateau, In my assumption, the shorter cable is for Wi-Fi, and the longer one is for Bluetooth. Did you connect the right antenna cable to the Airport card? (the short antenna cable to J1) By the way, there's nothing to do for picking up signals. (before or after installing the card)

Robolkw avatar Nov 27 '14 04:11 Robolkw

Thanks, that's what I thought. I will re-attempt install tomorrow. I am pretty sure short cable went to J1 as it wouldn't reach J0.

bateau avatar Nov 27 '14 04:11 bateau

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Install photo attached. The card shows up in System Profiler, but finds no access points. Short cable goes to J1

bateau avatar Nov 27 '14 16:11 bateau

Why can't I see your System Information screenshot on this page? Did you edit your post, bateau?

Anyway, I first checked my email, which includes two photos. One is your installation photo (as it is still visible right above), and the other one was your System Information screenshot.

So my question is: Did you turn on your Wi-Fi? (It seems like a bit foolish question, right?)

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These are my System Information screenshots, just for comparison. As you can see, the first one was captured during the time when I turned off Wi-Fi, and the second one: turned on and connected to my AP. Based on my screenshots, your screenshot was captured when the Wi-Fi was turned off. (At least your Mac recognized like that.)

So let's see what happens if you turn on Wi-Fi and look into your sys info. Then it'll be more obvious - the problem is either hardware related or software related.

Robolkw avatar Nov 27 '14 19:11 Robolkw

screen shot 2014-11-27 at 12 32 16 pm Here is screenshot with wifi enabled. The X3 country code looks suspicious to me. There is a working BCM94360CD adapter connected to the same access point and it has "Locale = FCC" and "Country = US". I checked my Airport Extreme configuration and it's set to US as location.

Update: Here's a screenshot of working card in the same laptop screen shot 2014-11-28 at 12 15 28 pm

bateau avatar Nov 27 '14 22:11 bateau

Okay, I finally got the chance to work on my MBA and I don't the really know how this happens but Handoff on MBA Late 2010 starts working immediately after the AirPort Card swap without me even running the tool at all!

System Information shows BT LE, Instant Hotspot, and Handoff supported the instant I swapped the card. So I tried relogging my iCloud account on my Mac and it just works!

Very very weird... But I got that going for me, which is nice. :)

I just reformatted the drive yesterday so it's still vanilla, and the card is BCM94360CS2. image image

Here's how it looks like afterwards. image

joshuapurwadi avatar Dec 12 '14 20:12 joshuapurwadi

Which card did you swap into your 2010 MBA?

Joshua, can you please take screenshot of WiFi section in System Information? I'd like to see what kind of Locale/Country your card shows up with.

On Friday, December 12, 2014, joshuapurwadi [email protected] wrote:

Okay, I finally got the chance to work on my MBA and I don't the really know how this happens but Handoff on MBA Late 2010 starts working immediately after the AirPort Card swap without me even running the tool at all!

System Information shows BT LE, Instant Hotspot, and Handoff supported the instant I swapped the card. So I tried relogging my iCloud account on my Mac and it just works!

Very very weird... But I got that going for me which is nice. :)

I just reformatted the drive yesterday so it's still vanilla.

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bateau avatar Dec 12 '14 20:12 bateau

Thanks! This is extremely helpful. I bought the same card on EBAY and wondered because it is larger than the original. Also, I mashed my cable connectors so I bought a used antenna and will splice the new wires on to the existing wires and will not have to re-rout. they were not labeled on the old card so knowing which is which is huge.

philmorse avatar Dec 15 '14 19:12 philmorse

same as what had happened to @joshuapurwadi, swapping the card you are ready to go. You DON'T NEED CAT to make it work!

Macbook air late 2010 OS X 10.10.1

P.S.be careful about the antenna rerouting, mush keep the long wire routed from the side of the wifi card, not over it, because it may cause the bluetooth discover nothing.

lin7sh avatar Dec 19 '14 03:12 lin7sh

Thanks all for the reports and @joshuapurwadi for the pics, I've updated the compatibility table.

dokterdok avatar Dec 19 '14 03:12 dokterdok

FYI, I was able to splice new ends onto the existing antenna cables and I now have continuity. My cables were stuck to the old wifi board and they left parts of the clips stuck to the board when I removed them, so this could be a common problem. The cables themselves are min shielded coax type with a wrapped core.

philmorse avatar Dec 21 '14 04:12 philmorse

Hi I have a 2010 MBA 11" and was able to get a BCM94360CS2 card working in it with just the hardware swap and did not have to use the software tool. Like others I saw on the web about the Continuity Enabler Tool and started to read up on it. I found a BCM94360CS2 card on eBay and got it, but then discovered it was too big once I got it and didn't really do any more. I had noticed the 2010 MBA was then no longer on that chart and I just put the card away only out $30, no biggie. Then a few weeks went by saw there was a 2.0 version and that noticed that the chart had the BCM94360CS2 back on it for the MBA 2010 models. I found this page and saw where the users here had just put the card in and got the antennas to reach. You'll see in my pics below I have the 11" MBA and the photos others were posting must be the 13" as the card is not parallel with the back edge. Luckily for the 11" the 2 small antennas reach just fine without have to re-route them like the 13" seems to need. I'm running the latest 10.10.1 and after installing the card and putting the cover back on, booted up and Wifi is working fine and the bluetooth is working just fine too. I was able to AirDrop these pictures from my iPad to the MacBook Air. The System Profiler is showing Supported for everything too. I haven't figured out Handoff and Instant Hotspot yet, but the AirDrop is working, that's the main thing I wanted, plus having the 802.11AC will be nice if I get a new router.

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swill00net avatar Dec 24 '14 03:12 swill00net

Update Had to logout on both MBA and iPad on iCloud and after several attempts I was able to get Handoff working. AirDrop is working OK and I can see my iPad Air 2 as a Instant Hotspot device in the Wifi menu

swill00net avatar Dec 24 '14 04:12 swill00net

More on splicing cables: While they are functional, I'm finding the bluetooth is impaired. Breaching the cable makes it vulnerable to noise and interference. I have ordered yet another antenna assembly and will replace the whole deal

philmorse avatar Dec 24 '14 04:12 philmorse

@joshuapurwadi: how did you manage to get the small cable connectors to reach all the way to the end of the BCM94360CS2's connectors? My small cable connectors of my 2010 MBA '13 connecting to the WiFi-card seem very non-stretchable.

dnivi3 avatar Jan 17 '15 17:01 dnivi3

In fact, I didn't. I have seen where others disconnected the cable from the hinge to get more play and were able to re-route. In my case, the connectors broke when I was removing them from the old bluetooth card so I bought an antenna on Ebay and soldered the new connectors. Results have been poor because the wires are now exposed to interference. I tried shielding with foil and then copper tape and things have just gotten worse. I intend to have the antenna replaced altogether (beyond my skills), go back to square one, and stop messing around. It's not worth the trouble.

philmorse avatar Jan 17 '15 19:01 philmorse

Can confirm that I managed to install and get the BCM94360CS2 working immediately in my 2010 MBA '13 after following instructions and pictures in a previous comment.

dnivi3 avatar Jan 19 '15 13:01 dnivi3

thanks , handoff working for me in my MBA 13' !! after resign icloud account !!!!

tikomile avatar Jan 22 '15 06:01 tikomile

After reading this thread, i've bought a BCM94360CS2 from eBay. for my 2010MBA but the only thing is that no where in this thread does it say how to secure the card as the screw won't fit. Or do you just leave it not screwed in??

hansol2005 avatar Mar 02 '15 05:03 hansol2005

Just leave it unscrewed, it won’t detach itself.

On Mar 2, 2015, at 4:43 PM, hansol2005 [email protected] wrote:

After reading this thread, i've bought a BCM94360CS2 from eBay. for my 2010MBA but the only thing is that no where in this thread does it say how to secure the card as the screw won't fit. Or do you just leave it not screwed in??

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joshuapurwadi avatar Mar 02 '15 05:03 joshuapurwadi

Hansol Make sure the insulation on the motherboard !!!

tikomile avatar Mar 02 '15 05:03 tikomile

Thanks for quick reply,

hansol2005 avatar Mar 02 '15 05:03 hansol2005

I got continuity working with installing a BCM94360CS2 in my 2010 MBA but can't get instant hotspot to work.. screen shot 2015-03-18 at 16 57 58 My Mac sees it but won't connect .. screen shot 2015-03-18 at 16 57 36 can someone please help..

hansol2005 avatar Mar 18 '15 17:03 hansol2005