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New litany: Escape

Open TheLeopold opened this issue 1 year ago • 22 comments

About The Pull Request

Do not merge until NTs immune to forcesay! Adds new litany. It kills the user and detaches his cruciform. Definitely needs a better name.

Why It's Good For The Game

Slightly speeds up the cloning process.

Testing

used litany died

Changelog

:cl: add: Added new litany: Escape /:cl:

TheLeopold avatar Apr 18 '23 12:04 TheLeopold

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=czFaw5FB-Nk

Mycah142 avatar Apr 18 '23 12:04 Mycah142

Slumber actually wouldn't be a bad name, honestly

thevandie avatar Apr 18 '23 13:04 thevandie

Do not merge until NTs immune to forcesay!

TheLeopold avatar Apr 18 '23 15:04 TheLeopold

No please do

thevandie avatar Apr 18 '23 16:04 thevandie

I'm not sure how ethical it is (Preacher telling you to kill yourself) and yeah forcesay

Currently, folk wanting cloning are commonly not dead, just damaged. Easy cruciform removal via the litany needs the body to be dead. So usually they undress, and either kill themselves or someone else, like the preacher, kill them.

So technically this is already happening in a far more barbaric way. Leopold, like many others, hope for a mechanical way to speed this up.

Now personally I disagree with this functionality alone.

I believe it should be Recall. Say the litany, the cruciform ejects and teleports to the Last Shelter. Stammering should not let the litany function, so they can't macro it and gyp an antag out of his reward. Entreaty already works mid combat, this shouldn't.

This means anyone lost in space, or maint, or just giving up, are retrievable, albiet without their items.

A byproduct of this could be the Martyr upgrade activating, creating actual suicide NT members without risk to the cruciform being lost in the explosion. Personally, I find this hysterical.

Mycah142 avatar Apr 18 '23 20:04 Mycah142

A byproduct of this could be the Martyr upgrade activating, creating actual suicide NT members without risk to the cruciform being lost in the explosion. Personally, I find this hysterical.

well, they don't actually die before the cruciform ejects, so the explosion shouldn't trigger, right?

Humonitarian avatar Apr 18 '23 22:04 Humonitarian

A byproduct of this could be the Martyr upgrade activating, creating actual suicide NT members without risk to the cruciform being lost in the explosion. Personally, I find this hysterical.

well, they don't actually die before the cruciform ejects, so the explosion shouldn't trigger, right?

Would be funny if they did though, as currently the Martyr upgrade isn't manually activated without just blowin' ones brains out. Rig deadman switches can be manually activated.

Mycah142 avatar Apr 18 '23 22:04 Mycah142

Stammering should not let the litany function

Switches to Jive.

DiaFRAME444 avatar Apr 19 '23 00:04 DiaFRAME444

Did you actually just accept that suggestion?

Humonitarian avatar Apr 21 '23 12:04 Humonitarian

I accepted it before translating

TheLeopold avatar Apr 21 '23 12:04 TheLeopold

Did you actually just accept that suggestion?

I fucking love miners.

Mycah142 avatar Apr 21 '23 13:04 Mycah142

I'm not sure how ethical it is (Preacher telling you to kill yourself) and yeah forcesay

Me, an ascended intellectual, forcing the benighted witch hunters to say their assigned kill-phrase with my enlightened mind.

Kurgis avatar May 06 '23 08:05 Kurgis

I'm not sure how ethical it is (Preacher telling you to kill yourself) and yeah forcesay

Average NeoTheology preacher: image

Kegdo-Jr avatar Jun 06 '23 13:06 Kegdo-Jr

as a quick question, why the damage vs gibbing?

null-Aurelian avatar Sep 06 '23 05:09 null-Aurelian

as a quick question, why the damage vs gibbing?

I assume because the goal is to reduce mess, not increase it.

Humonitarian avatar Sep 06 '23 16:09 Humonitarian

The only way I think this should be merged is if NT remains susceptible to Force Say.

Mostly because being able to speak a litany and die, when shooting yourself in the head, or just getting fukken medical care are also options, is absolutely insane and is an OOC mechanic for player convenience without consideration for the characters. If NT are so "unafraid" of dying, enough to be able to pray the gay away, then they shouldn't fear someone else doing it to them. They're immortal, why care, right?

So you should suffer for it, and have it be a built-in vulnerability. Or give up.

Mycah142 avatar Sep 06 '23 16:09 Mycah142

as a quick question, why the damage vs gibbing?

I assume because the goal is to reduce mess, not increase it.

My concern is that I'm not 100% sure that damage will reliably kill the caster vs gibbing. The other worry is that gibbing might not leave behind a cruciform. Being messy doesn't seem like an issue for NT

null-Aurelian avatar Sep 06 '23 16:09 null-Aurelian

as a quick question, why the damage vs gibbing?

I assume because the goal is to reduce mess, not increase it.

My concern is that I'm not 100% sure that damage will reliably kill the caster vs gibbing. The other worry is that gibbing might not leave behind a cruciform. Being messy doesn't seem like an issue for NT

The detach proc should kill the man regardless, just like when you remove it via surgery.

Humonitarian avatar Sep 07 '23 20:09 Humonitarian

as a quick question, why the damage vs gibbing?

I assume because the goal is to reduce mess, not increase it.

My concern is that I'm not 100% sure that damage will reliably kill the caster vs gibbing. The other worry is that gibbing might not leave behind a cruciform. Being messy doesn't seem like an issue for NT

The detach proc should kill the man regardless, just like when you remove it via surgery.

Did that get fixed? Last I heard surgical removal didn't kill for some reason.

null-Aurelian avatar Sep 07 '23 20:09 null-Aurelian

I'd like this tested with force say. Depending on result I'll approve.

Humonitarian avatar Feb 04 '24 08:02 Humonitarian

I'd like this tested with force say. Depending on result I'll approve.

It was tested with force say Litany triggered, cruciform popped out, disciple died. That's why I added comment to not merge this for now.

TheLeopold avatar Feb 04 '24 13:02 TheLeopold

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Hopekz avatar Apr 08 '24 08:04 Hopekz