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Integrate "Jeff Phrasing" system

Open YannCebron opened this issue 1 year ago • 10 comments

https://github.com/jthlim/jeff-phrasing

Why did I file this as special request instead of just building a custom lesson?

  1. It's a Python dict, so I'd need to generate all possibilities programmatically (or spend about 32 days writing 'em down manually)
  2. Just putting all possibilities down in one or more lessons sorted alphabetically doesn't seem like a good strategy to learn this system

So, the question/feature request is basically about helping with these two issues.

Is there some viable strategy that could help teaching all 2837982 possibilities step-by-step, in a useful/ready-to-apply-to-regular-use-from-the-beginning-way? Or some group of related lessons that could teach certain aspects of the system? Maybe this could even be generalized and applied to other similar systems, like Jade GG (for which https://didoesdigital.com/typey-type/lessons/drills/jade-gg-phrasing-briefs/ already exists, but IMHO it suffers from issue 2))

YannCebron avatar Nov 19 '22 11:11 YannCebron

In absence of specific training, I'd recommend using tapey-tape or the embedded steno paper tape to help identify how to stroke these as you do whatever you're normally doing.

The suggestions window will show strokes too, but is definitely not as efficient to review:

tapey-tape: Screenshot 2022-11-19 at 10 00 17 PM

embedded steno tape: Screenshot 2022-11-19 at 10 00 53 PM

Plover suggestions: Screenshot 2022-11-19 at 9 59 57 PM

jthlim avatar Nov 19 '22 14:11 jthlim

Regarding the best way to learn it -- everyone learns differently, but I'd recommend starting off with just pronoun + can/do/shall/would and pronoun + single verb combinations. More than that will likely be too much cognitive overhead. Once you get used to those, you can string together more.

jthlim avatar Nov 19 '22 14:11 jthlim

Happy to add a lesson collection. Perhaps first lesson of the collection is pronoun + can/do/shall/would and second lesson is pronoun + single verb combinations. We could aim for just enough phrases to cover each word from each part once eg “I can”, “we shall”, “he would” (for the smaller lessons). Maybe prioritising phrases by frequency somehow?

Just need a list of words and their strokes.

didoesdigital avatar Nov 20 '22 05:11 didoesdigital

@YannCebron did you want to put this list together? or shall I?

jthlim avatar Nov 28 '22 04:11 jthlim

I'll try to propose something by this weekend

YannCebron avatar Nov 29 '22 15:11 YannCebron

shared some generated sheets with @didoesdigital via DM

YannCebron avatar Dec 04 '22 19:12 YannCebron

Ah! Sorry I missed this! A failure of both my GitHub notification settings and Discord notification settings 🤦‍♀️ I think we can make the lessons a little shorter each, about 50–300 words but otherwise this is a good start.

didoesdigital avatar Dec 26 '22 04:12 didoesdigital

WIP https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DAgKyB1jdObHOQCu4ryVtOXzEJggHeorsrrK4UJiqLs/edit#gid=0 any feedback or ideas are welcome

published the generator (hacky!) https://github.com/YannCebron/jeff-phrasing-generator

YannCebron avatar Feb 24 '23 15:02 YannCebron

@YannCebron @jthlim I'm noodling with some ideas for a phrasing game I'd love your input on: https://github.com/didoesdigital/typey-type/issues/126

didoesdigital avatar May 09 '23 04:05 didoesdigital

#126 would be awesome indeed, that would be the "ultimate" training generator (I think I made a somewhat similar proposal in DM)

YannCebron avatar May 26 '23 09:05 YannCebron