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not being able to create members during group creation breaks workflows
there is a longer standing issue that you cannot ~~add~~ create members during group creation (as on android or ios).
the the past, this was only a comparable small inconvenience as you could create the group beforehand and create and add members later - so at lease you do not have to throw aways the group.
meanwhile, we create guaranteed-e2ee groups if possible by the initial member list - and that makes it impossible to add email addresses later.
eg. this is a typical workflow for using delta chat to send a comparable "normal looking" mail to somebody, eg. some company's info@company address you did not wrote to before:
- create a group with group name == subject
- create and add info@company
- write a message, maybe attach a pdf or so
in the past, that works like that - meanwhile, you cannot add info@company in step 2. as in step 1. a guaranteed-e2ee groups is created.
theoretical fixes may be to not create guaranteed-e2ee in this case (as already discussed in the past) or to allow setting the subject differently, however, both would be some effort and/or may have other downsides.
pragmatic fix would be to allow adding members during group creation - which is very useful in general, independently of who subject can be set or how guaranteed-e2ee is determined.