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There is no sound for push notifications.
- Operating System: x64 Windows 7
- Delta Chat Version: 1.25.1 (git: v1.25.0-2-g070ab539)
- Expected behavior: When the notification appears in the lower right corner of the desktop, a beep should sound. The style of the beep depends on the system settings. Just like Windows 10.
- Actual behavior: Under Windows 7, push notifications do not have any sound for prompting.
- Steps to reproduce the problem: n/a
- Screenshots: n/a
- Logs: n/a
@gerryfrancis
Thank you for your report. :+1: Unfortunately I have no Windows 7 system available at the moment to verify. Can you hear the notification sound when using a different mail app than Delta Chat?
Thank you for your report. +1 Unfortunately I have no Windows 7 system available at the moment to verify. Can you hear the notification sound when using a different mail app than Delta Chat?
Yes, I have used the following two mail clients, they can sound normally when they receive new mail under Windows 7. And there are different strategies for the choice of sound:
Foxmail: Use the sound from the operating system settings (the sound style is part of the theme);
DreamMail Pro: Use the audio file specified by the user.
It seems that the notification style of Delta Chat is self-implemented under Windows 7, and an independent sound mechanism can be used.
@YamatoRyou Thank you for your input. The sound is not played in Windows 8.1 (which I use right now) either. In fact, I do not get a visible notification for incoming messages at all, can you confirm, please?
Seems like Delta Chat is missing notification support in Windows 8.1 at all, at least I cannot tick the app in Windows settings for notifications:
Seems like Delta Chat is missing notification support in Windows 8.1 at all, at least I cannot tick the app in Windows settings for notifications:
Same.
@YamatoRyou Thanks for your confirmation, but ... are you using Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 with Delta Chat?
@YamatoRyou Thanks for your confirmation, but ... are you using Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 with Delta Chat?
Windows 7 is a system I often use, and Windows 8.1 is temporarily installed on VMWare to assist you in testing.
@YamatoRyou Ah, OK! :) Back to your issue in Windows 7 then: Do you get visual notifications of Delta Chat (while the app window is not focused)?
@YamatoRyou Ah, OK! :) Back to your issue in Windows 7 then: Do you get visual notifications of Delta Chat (while the app window is not focused)?
Sure.
@YamatoRyou Interesting, this would mean that Delta Chat lacks support only for notification sounds on Windows 7, but does not support Windows 8.1 notifications at all.
Maybe an old Windows notification library included in the Delta Chat project?
@YamatoRyou Interesting, this would mean that Delta Chat lacks support only for notification sounds on Windows 7, but does not support Windows 8.1 notifications at all.
Maybe an old Windows notification library included in the Delta Chat project?
The optimal solution for this problem can refer to the Telegram for Windows desktop version. All supported Windows versions will use their own notification push system, but also freely adjust the style of the notification; sound; screen position; frequency and repeated reminder.
I looked into it a bit with @tommi3141 and it seems there is a node module for doing notifications on windows. Probably this helps with some of the issues we have? https://github.com/felixrieseberg/electron-windows-notifications
@Jikstra It is not released for Windows 7, only Windows 8 and above, but it looks nice! :+1: Do you have an idea why the sound is not played in 7?
@Jikstra It is not released for Windows 7, only Windows 8 and above, but it looks nice! +1 Do you have an idea why the sound is not played in 7?
Oh. Good hint ^^ Ehm I don't know exactly, but probably the chrome browser or electron devs never gave a shit about implementing web notifications api properly for windows 7? Win 7 is end of life since almost a year. But the whole notifications/tray api of electron is not particularly good, we had to hack around quite a bit to get it to the current state, and it has bugs on linux too.
Win 7 is end of life since almost a year.
In January 2022 EOL for Windows 7 will be for two years. Although we support 7 and up, maybe even Windows 11 inofficially(?), should we stick to supporting 7 any longer? Even 8.1 will have its EOL next month, FYI.
Win 7 is end of life since almost a year.
In January 2022 EOL for Windows 7 will be for two years. Although we support 7 and up, maybe even Windows 11 inofficially(?), should we stick to supporting 7 any longer? Even 8.1 will have its EOL next month, FYI.
I think there can be some point of supporting old OSs/architectures (32bit). There is old hardware around, and continuing to use it is the most sustainable act from a recycling perspective. Throwing away a computer because win11 doesn't run on it and buying a new one is a problem on many levels (money, capitalism, climate change..., respect of resources/work). I would argue, use linux but that's not a solution for anyone and using and old, outdated os is of course problematic on security things and such but maybe mandatory to use older software or other personal/individual reasons. At the same time supporting old things is not without effort, someone has to maintain/implement it and I think this is where things are getting interesting. If somebody wants to add support for this, I'm happy to merge it. Maybe I will even do it myself because this is important to me too, but I mainly focus on linux and not so much on windows. Personal thing, but I'm open for the bigger perspective of supporting as much as we are able to maintain. And If we're not able to maintain this anymore, we have to drop it or keep it at the (semi) broken state.
I think we just need to play a sound ourselves on platforms where there isn't one already (also have a toggle in the settings for the case that our assumptions are wrong so that the user can disable it).
Also I highly suspect that we need to probably set some registry keys while installing to get DC to appear in those notification settings or use an appx/UWP format/api for it. We need to look into the registry keys anyway so people can select Deltachat as default mailto handler in the settings.
in windows 10 the sounds works for me using current master (1.28.1, plaese wait for 1.28.2 when updating, currently custom chat background is broken on windows)
@Simon-Laux Notification centers in Windows 7, 8(.1), and 10 are quite different to each other. E.g. I tested DC version 1.28.1, and I receive no visual notification for new messages at all.
Values for new mail notification sounds can be found in the subkeys of HKEY_CURRENT_USER\AppEvents\Schemes\Apps\.Default\MailBeep and HKEY_CURRENT_USER\AppEvents\Schemes\Apps\.Default\Notification.Mail .
Is also to be a problem on linux: https://github.com/deltachat/deltachat-desktop/issues/3289#issuecomment-1606305485