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Questions about the hardware

Open ahmedshah1494 opened this issue 4 years ago • 16 comments

I have a couple of questions about the setup.

1-The usb jack attached to the pogo pins is a micro-usb jack, right?

2-Is the jack on the usb-C breakout a female? Do you then use a usb-C to usb-C to connect the breakout board to the usb-C port on the remarkable?

Thanks

ahmedshah1494 avatar Nov 19 '20 17:11 ahmedshah1494

  1. yes, usb micro
  2. i use male, but there are people that have used a female one with a cable (i didnt have a usb 3.1 cabel) as long as the all the pins are connected

On Thu, 19 Nov 2020 at 18:42 Muhammad Ahmed Shah [email protected] wrote:

I have a couple of questions about the setup.

1-The usb jack attached to the pogo pins is a micro-usb jack, right?

2-Is the jack on the usb-C breakout a female? Do you then use a usb-C to usb-C to connect the breakout board to the usb-C port on the remarkable?

Thanks

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ddvk avatar Nov 19 '20 17:11 ddvk

Thanks a lot for responding. Just to make sure I got this right, I need to get a male usb-C breakout with a B8 pin, plug it into the powered off device, and attach a 10K resistor between GND and B8, right?

ahmedshah1494 avatar Nov 19 '20 19:11 ahmedshah1494

yes, then power up

ddvk avatar Nov 19 '20 19:11 ddvk

there are links in the readme to aliexpress

On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 at 19:24 starnix59 [email protected] wrote:

Where did you get the pogo adapter?

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ddvk avatar Jan 05 '21 18:01 ddvk

Hi! I'm buying also the components to have access to recovery, OTG, etc (https://github.com/dps/remarkable-keywriter/issues/14). Just found these kind of pogo connectors with magnets: https://es.aliexpress.com/item/1005001587511989.html. For anyone interested.

isman7 avatar Jan 06 '21 22:01 isman7

In case this helps anyone that is impatient and doesn't want to wait for their AliExpress order to come in and you own or have access to a 3D printer. :smile:

Here is a support bracket to use breadboard patch cables as "pogo" workarounds. It's a bit touchy, but it will work in a pinch.

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4714318

rrscott2022 avatar Jan 08 '21 00:01 rrscott2022

Hey, for anyone interested, as it has been discussed in https://github.com/dps/remarkable-keywriter/issues/14, pogo pins with magnets do not work directly on the remarkable 2, because magnets are not aligned. However, you can use a female connector for the magnets and the male connector for the actual connection. And with some soldering do the trick. Pics:

https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/9478220/106371365-cf8d7b00-6363-11eb-99ec-afc09332f91f.png https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/9478220/106392383-c945e000-63f1-11eb-9fcb-1b5599f292d6.png https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/9478220/106390405-9d722c80-63e8-11eb-9007-86e1df8c19b7.gif

isman7 avatar Feb 01 '21 21:02 isman7

That's great! How reliable/easy to re-connect is it?

alistair23 avatar Feb 02 '21 04:02 alistair23

The idea is to use the magnets, so it's magnetic, the problem is that we have only magnets in one side of the connector, so the Pogo pins have one degree of liberty that we don't want. But, connecting it in plain surface i.e. the folio, suffices to have a good connection.

What I'm thinking is to explore an integration with the USB-C connector all in one board or something, this would fix the free liberty degree.

I've made this gif to clarify the re-connection:

rm2-keyboard-reconnect

Hope it resolves some doubts!

isman7 avatar Feb 02 '21 18:02 isman7

That is awesome! So that is just two male pogo adapters?

alistair23 avatar Feb 04 '21 07:02 alistair23

i made a holder in freecad, but havent ironed its kinks yet, i ll push the file

ddvk avatar Feb 04 '21 07:02 ddvk

Thanks! Well, as they are sailed in pairs, I've used the male adapter as the actual connector and the female adapter for the magnets. Possible improvements are:

  • Add an LED to check power as a hint of the connection.
  • New version with a pre-layout strip PCB board to reduce soldering.
  • New version with actual magnets instead of the female connector, this would add some stability, using 4 magnets, instead of 2. This will reduce the liberty of the mount. To do so I need some 3D printing as well, thus I need some time to play with the design.

I really didn't found any docs about the magnets so, some days ago I played with magnets they are composite magnets with reversed polarity +-+-, I did some review on Twitter (It's in Catalan, so you can google translate or enjoy the pictures!): https://twitter.com/ismansiete/status/1352681340777463810

El jue, 4 feb 2021 a las 8:26, Alistair Francis ([email protected]) escribió:

That is awesome! So that is just two male pogo adapters?

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isman7 avatar Feb 04 '21 07:02 isman7

Any update on the holder @ddvk ?

alistair23 avatar Feb 08 '21 00:02 alistair23

Any update on the holder @ddvk ?

it is not yet optimal, but i pushed the version I have

ddvk avatar Feb 10 '21 21:02 ddvk

there are links in the readme to aliexpress

Hi, this link is probably bad. https://www.aliexpress.com/i/4000026719770.html Can I use this? Or another? https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000221550930.html

PepikVaio avatar Mar 07 '21 17:03 PepikVaio

there are links in the readme to aliexpress

Hi, this link is probably bad.

https://www.aliexpress.com/i/4000026719770.html

Can I use this? Or another?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000221550930.html

this one is female, you'll need a cable that has a b8 connection

ddvk avatar Mar 07 '21 18:03 ddvk