Seth support for Ledger browser support removal

[wolflo]

Ledger started enabling browser support by default: https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/360004981213-Browser-support-removal.

More specifically, it looks like they removed the browser support setting entirely, leaving no option to turn it off. Trying to use a ledger wallet with updated firmware with Seth results in the error:

ethsign: couldn't use Ledger: needs to be in Ethereum app with browser support off.

[weijiekoh]

+1. This is a blocker for using the Ledger via CLI. The non-CLI workaround is to use MetaMask + MyCrypto.

[asymmetric]

Link is dead, is there an announcement somewhere?

[wolflo]

I can't find a new version of the support page, but I just got it working. Turns out I needed to add some udev rules. Some info on how to do this is at https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/115005165269-Fix-connection-issues under the "Linux" dropdown. @weijiekoh

For posterity, Ledger Nano S was working with Ledger Live and other desktop apps but not with Seth (saying browser support needed to be turned off), My Ether Wallet, or My Crypto web apps (both giving a Transport Error, Error Code 5, or some variation on needing to turn browser support on). Adding udev rules appears to have fixed them all.

@asymmetric thanks for diving into a false alarm for me.

[weijiekoh]

but not with Seth (saying browser support needed to be turned off)

Yeah, this issue still persists even with the udev rules.

[odyslam]

According to the ledger documentation and what I am seeing as a Ledgert user, I think the canonical way is for the app to communicate via websockets with ledger live and let the ledger live app do the talking with the device.

They offer libraries in JS, it shouldn't be too hard to create a bridging script so that ethsign talks with ledger-live.

What do you all think ?

• https://github.com/LedgerHQ/ledger-live-common/blob/master/docs/AccountBridge.md -https://github.com/LedgerHQ/ledger-live-common/blob/master/docs/cli.md

[d-xo]

I think that requiring a running instance of ledger live to use seth would feel quite clunky.

What would the advantage be? Are you running into this issue with the browser support @OdysLam?

[odyslam]

Hey @d-xo,

I was under the impression from this thread that ethesign does not currently support ledger. I tried using it with my ledger device on a mac, but couldn't figure out the browser support config.

I will retry and see to add anything to the docs for posterity.

Regarding ledger live, from my experience, this is the current state-of-the-art. The user expects to run ledger live in order to interact with 3rd-parties that want to interact with the hw device.

[MrChico]

There are no known problems with communicating with ledger through seth, as far as I know. There's no browser involved so you can just communicate with the ledger directly. What problem are you seeing?

[odyslam]

I tried using the ledger but it could not find the account. Let me try again to see if I missed any configuration.