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[Enhancement] "Enable select glitch" option

Open foxsouns opened this issue 1 year ago • 9 comments

I don't know GBasm or anything, but it should be somewhat trivial to reimpliment the select glitch (for use with Hell logic, or even a no-logic mode) as a disabled-by-default option, for making seeds funner, as it functionally feels like EG from ALTTP, and would just be something I would play: might be fun for a monthly or something.

foxsouns avatar Dec 12 '22 21:12 foxsouns

Logic for this should be pretty much trivial, if not beatable (usually) without logic entirely. There are still a few checks that could be missed off the top of my head (Mabe Well without bush removing item, most single/double room caves behind locks), but I don't even think you need much for egg once you just screenwarp to all the instruments, lol.

foxsouns avatar Dec 12 '22 21:12 foxsouns

still a few checks that could be missed off the top of my head (Mabe Well without bush removing item, most single/double room caves behind locks)

wait. you could just do this in the underworld to reach those spots. i am now convinced no-logic would be viable no matter what now lol

foxsouns avatar Dec 13 '22 03:12 foxsouns

The LA select glitch goes against the NoWWOoB ruleset that is the core of the logic.

daid avatar Dec 13 '22 08:12 daid

That's fair, I just thought it might be fun as an option, and wanted to bring it up.

foxsouns avatar Dec 13 '22 15:12 foxsouns

Untested, but I think if you set the byte at 02:6106 to 00 it might allow the select glitch. If you use an hex editor instead of a debugger, that is byte offset 0xA106 feel free to try.

daid avatar Dec 15 '22 09:12 daid

Untested, but I think if you set the byte at 02:6106 to 00 it might allow the select glitch. If you use an hex editor instead of a debugger, that is byte offset 0xA106 feel free to try.

i'll get back to you with results, going to try this out.

foxsouns avatar Dec 15 '22 15:12 foxsouns

@daid: had set offset 0xA106 to 00, on both a randomized and the original roms (english dx v1.0, of course) to no effect, unfortunately.

foxsouns avatar Dec 15 '22 15:12 foxsouns

@foxsouns You mean this glitch? Set offset 0x10B3 to 00.

tobiasvl avatar Jan 02 '24 00:01 tobiasvl

This is a cute idea, but I don't think it's worth adding to LADXR.

Regardless of the implications on logic, in my personal experience I have met many people who only know LA/DX as 'the ones you can do the map warp glitch in'. I can just imagine the amount of people who come away from LADXR with a bad taste when they get stuck out of bounds (Obviously the Return to Home option exists, but that's also something that isn't something people know going in)

If it were to be added, I suggest it being a non-cosmetic setting (So that it couldn't be enabled in race seeds), and to have it be disabled by default.

muffinjets avatar Jan 02 '24 05:01 muffinjets