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Freeze the old results

Open kerszl opened this issue 3 months ago • 35 comments

Please freeze past results (2024 and early). A group was international in 2024, but this month switched to another country and suddenly appeared high in last year’s ranking, breaking stats. Valgrind did not play as a Polish group in 2024.

If I change my nationality to another country, I could even be first in the previous years. greets.

kerszl avatar Sep 26 '25 13:09 kerszl

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Ap4sh avatar Sep 26 '25 14:09 Ap4sh

One person in your group is Polish and now you’re already calling yourselves a Polish group? Shows how honest you are. Besides, you were scheming before anyway.

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kerszl avatar Sep 26 '25 18:09 kerszl

If you spend more time practice and actually playing ctf you will achive better results than digging other people trash

I'm wondering how in the first place you spot that you shifted down one position on leaderboard? Are you constantly monitoring it polishing your 🏆?

jelly8173 avatar Sep 26 '25 19:09 jelly8173

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Acters avatar Sep 26 '25 19:09 Acters

Can you please inspect Friendly Maltese Citizens too? I'm suspicious they might not actually be from Malta.

ShellUnease avatar Sep 26 '25 19:09 ShellUnease

It’s not about the points. You have a lot of points, and that’s great. This is about the fact that for 2 years you were an international team, and now suddenly, just to rank higher in some country, you switched to Polish. Next year, if it suits you in the States, will you become French, then Belgian after that?

kerszl avatar Sep 26 '25 19:09 kerszl

In 2024 you played as an international team, and now on CTFtime it "shows" that you got 2nd place in Poland, even though you didn’t play under Poland even once back then. Nobody is taking your points away, but you didn’t play as a Polish team. If you had done this right away, nobody would have any complaints.

kerszl avatar Sep 26 '25 20:09 kerszl

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Acters avatar Sep 26 '25 20:09 Acters

It’s not about the points. You have a lot of points, and that’s great. This is about the fact that for 2 years you were an international team, and now suddenly, just to rank higher in some country, you switched to Polish. Next year, if it suits you in the States, will you become French, then Belgian after that?

Going by your logic, why didn't we switch to a country where we would be first? You're projecting hard.

In 2024 you played as an international team, and now on CTFtime it "shows" that you got 2nd place in Poland, even though you didn’t play under Poland even once back then. Nobody is taking your points away, but you didn’t play as a Polish team. If you had done this right away, nobody would have any complaints.

What is "doing this right way" in your opinion? I don't see any wrongdoing in changing team flag on ctftime.

ShellUnease avatar Sep 26 '25 20:09 ShellUnease

What is "doing this right way" in your opinion? I don't see any wrongdoing in changing team flag on ctftime.

I do see wrongdoing, because you’re changing the scoreboards from past years, and those should be static — not altered just because someone decided to switch their country.

CTFtime should block changing the country, because as I can see, people are abusing it. But it’s also CTFtime’s fault for not freezing the results.

kerszl avatar Sep 26 '25 20:09 kerszl

CTFtime should block changing the country, because as I can see, people are abusing it. But it’s also CTFtime’s fault for not freezing the results.

Its definitely a minor bug, yeah. Great you spotted it!

I guess no one takes care on those ratings except of you thats why it lives so long.

I do see wrongdoing, because you’re changing the scoreboards from past years, and those should be static — not altered just because someone decided to switch their country.

Are you accusing someone of intentionally changing country flag just to shift your team down?

jelly8173 avatar Sep 26 '25 21:09 jelly8173

Congratulations to the team from the USA for taking 8th place!

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kerszl avatar Sep 26 '25 21:09 kerszl

Are you accusing someone of intentionally changing country flag just to shift your team down?

My team is not very important, it’s just a distortion of the statistics. Good luck.

kerszl avatar Sep 26 '25 21:09 kerszl

Are you accusing someone of intentionally changing country flag just to shift your team down?

My team is not very important, it’s just a distortion of the statistics. Good luck.

Yeah, your team is not important, but you dig shit on someone crossed your road? Your team's ethics very questionable 💩💩💩

You took it personal, not professional. Its not a bug report, its shit on public. Disgusting

jelly8173 avatar Sep 26 '25 21:09 jelly8173

How is that personal? Why would I care about your group? You’re just being brazen. After 2 years you change your nationality to whatever suits you. Why don’t you switch to USA here like you did on HTB? Because you’d be too low in the American stats. This is a bug in CTFtime, and you’re exploiting it.

kerszl avatar Sep 26 '25 21:09 kerszl

Yeah, you see. You keep accusing of intentional exploitation to deliberately hurt your team

jelly8173 avatar Sep 26 '25 21:09 jelly8173

I didn’t take this personally, and this is a bug report. You’re the ones constantly going after me. A group from the USA, or Poland. You switch countries whenever it suits your stats. Don’t talk about ethics. We didn't share flag on World Wide CTF

kerszl avatar Sep 26 '25 21:09 kerszl

Good luck

jelly8173 avatar Sep 26 '25 21:09 jelly8173

You’re the ones constantly going after me.L

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You:

  • Accused us of being dishonest, scheming in the past and brought up our DQ back from 2024 (which was the cause of one person that got kicked). Funnily enough we both know your team got DQd way more recently,
  • Accused us of switching country on ctftime to Poland to rank higher. Which doesn't make sense, because we could've also switched to let's say Germany and be 1st instead of 2nd. Just a pure projection of our motives which you have no idea about,
  • Accused us of "doing this wrong way", but we haven't done anything bad and we don't have any bad intentions.

Then you try to play the victim card and say "we're going after you". If your motive is just making a change to ctftime ranking logic, then why bring all of these accusations towards us specifically?

ShellUnease avatar Sep 26 '25 21:09 ShellUnease

How were we supposed to know that you’re a Polish team, when you practically never played under the Polish flag? For 2 years you played as international, and now suddenly you’re Polish? Earlier I thought you were from the USA.

There should be changes in CTFtime’s logic so that such situations don’t happen. Whether it’s from your side or someone else’s.

kerszl avatar Sep 26 '25 21:09 kerszl

How were we supposed to know that you’re a Polish team

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Acters avatar Sep 26 '25 22:09 Acters

On the other hand, it’s really great that there are such strong teams in Poland and that you’re in the world’s top 20. Good luck!

kerszl avatar Sep 26 '25 22:09 kerszl

How were we supposed to know that you’re a Polish team

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Yes. Polish Team. Image

kerszl avatar Sep 26 '25 22:09 kerszl

That meme is about how dramatic you are being

Acters avatar Sep 26 '25 22:09 Acters

Definitely a Polish team

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kerszl avatar Sep 26 '25 22:09 kerszl

That meme is about how dramatic you are being

It's only your and your group point of view.

kerszl avatar Sep 26 '25 22:09 kerszl

🔫 pay us $100 and we change flag to something else

jelly8173 avatar Sep 26 '25 23:09 jelly8173

🔫 pay us $100 and we change flag to something else

Bruh, first you swap “International” for Poland to climb the rankings, now you’re asking $100 per flag change? 😂 At this rate, you’ll be Germany next week, farming stats like it’s a subscription service. True CTF mercenaries — nationality sold separately!

kerszl avatar Sep 27 '25 08:09 kerszl

🔫 pay us $100 and we change flag to something else

Bruh, first you swap “International” for Poland to climb the rankings, now you’re asking $100 per flag change? 😂 At this rate, you’ll be Germany next week, farming stats like it’s a subscription service. True CTF mercenaries — nationality sold separately!

Sarcasm is hard over text but you know what is not hard to see? How badly you want to live in a bubble. Some team that has real skills drops by to represent a country flag for fun. Instead of pride for your country, you are crying to ctftime admins. You need some self reflection on why this is a waste of everyone's time. There is no reason to implement a freeze. It might even be more of a headache for the admins. You only think about some old ahh ranking under the Poland flag.

It's 2025, we don't pay attention to that stuff, let alone rankings in 2024. We do notice when someone's going around trash talking on Discord and GitHub with lame shit posts and half hearted plea for attention.

Acters avatar Sep 27 '25 23:09 Acters

This is not about the Polish flag or any other flag. It’s about the fact that teams, with such changes, distort the statistics. And as for you, you simply did it just to jump high in the ranking of a given country. But why only after 2 years — were you ashamed that the leader was from Poland? How many of you are actually from Poland? A few people at most. I’m curious if you are from Poland. I don’t think so. If it’s not possible to freeze the statistics, then the administrators should disable the option to change the country after one year.

kerszl avatar Sep 28 '25 08:09 kerszl