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Γ has different height on Windows Notepad

Open nandoconde opened this issue 2 years ago • 6 comments

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Problem

I know it is difficult to investigate, but \Gamma has different height on Windows Notepad (size 11).

This is best seen when compared to the capital t, T, since they both have the same height on Julia Terminal or VS Code. I can provide images again if they are of any help. I can also try more glyphs.

Thanks again!

Side info

JuliaMono I don't know how to check my version, but I'd swear it is the latest.

Julia I have the latest Julia (v1.7.1)

OS I'm on Windows 10 Pro 21H2.

Tools Latest VS Code.

nandoconde avatar Dec 26 '21 20:12 nandoconde

It's certainly a mystery.

This text (from here):

  "Uppercase letters" =>
   raw"""
   regular  A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z
   \sans    𝖠 𝖡 𝖢 𝖣 𝖤 𝖥 𝖦 𝖧 𝖨 𝖩 𝖪 𝖫 𝖬 𝖭 𝖮 𝖯 𝖰 𝖱 𝖲 𝖳 𝖴 𝖵 𝖶 𝖷 𝖸 𝖹
   \tt      𝙰 𝙱 𝙲 𝙳 𝙴 𝙵 𝙶 𝙷 𝙸 𝙹 𝙺 𝙻 𝙼 𝙽 𝙾 𝙿 𝚀 𝚁 𝚂 𝚃 𝚄 𝚅 𝚆 𝚇 𝚈 𝚉
   \it      𝐴 𝐵 𝐶 𝐷 𝐸 𝐹 𝐺 𝐻 𝐼 𝐽 𝐾 𝐿 𝑀 𝑁 𝑂 𝑃 𝑄 𝑅 𝑆 𝑇 𝑈 𝑉 𝑊 𝑋 𝑌 𝑍
   \isans   𝘈 𝘉 𝘊 𝘋 𝘌 𝘍 𝘎 𝘏 𝘐 𝘑 𝘒 𝘓 𝘔 𝘕 𝘖 𝘗 𝘘 𝘙 𝘚 𝘛 𝘜 𝘝 𝘞 𝘟 𝘠 𝘡
   \scr     𝒜 ℬ 𝒞 𝒟 ℰ ℱ 𝒢 ℋ ℐ 𝒥 𝒦 ℒ ℳ 𝒩 𝒪 𝒫 𝒬 ℛ 𝒮 𝒯 𝒰 𝒱 𝒲 𝒳 𝒴 𝒵
   \bf      𝐀 𝐁 𝐂 𝐃 𝐄 𝐅 𝐆 𝐇 𝐈 𝐉 𝐊 𝐋 𝐌 𝐍 𝐎 𝐏 𝐐 𝐑 𝐒 𝐓 𝐔 𝐕 𝐖 𝐗 𝐘 𝐙
   \bsans   𝗔 𝗕 𝗖 𝗗 𝗘 𝗙 𝗚 𝗛 𝗜 𝗝 𝗞 𝗟 𝗠 𝗡 𝗢 𝗣 𝗤 𝗥 𝗦 𝗧 𝗨 𝗩 𝗪 𝗫 𝗬 𝗭
   \bi      𝑨 𝑩 𝑪 𝑫 𝑬 𝑭 𝑮 𝑯 𝑰 𝑱 𝑲 𝑳 𝑴 𝑵 𝑶 𝑷 𝑸 𝑹 𝑺 𝑻 𝑼 𝑽 𝑾 𝑿 𝒀 𝒁
   \bisans  𝘼 𝘽 𝘾 𝘿 𝙀 𝙁 𝙂 𝙃 𝙄 𝙅 𝙆 𝙇 𝙈 𝙉 𝙊 𝙋 𝙌 𝙍 𝙎 𝙏 𝙐 𝙑 𝙒 𝙓 𝙔 𝙕
   \bscr    𝓐 𝓑 𝓒 𝓓 𝓔 𝓕 𝓖 𝓗 𝓘 𝓙 𝓚 𝓛 𝓜 𝓝 𝓞 𝓟 𝓠 𝓡 𝓢 𝓣 𝓤 𝓥 𝓦 𝓧 𝓨 𝓩
   \bb      𝔸 𝔹 ℂ 𝔻 𝔼 𝔽 𝔾 ℍ 𝕀 𝕁 𝕂 𝕃 𝕄 ℕ 𝕆 ℙ ℚ ℝ 𝕊 𝕋 𝕌 𝕍 𝕎 𝕏 𝕐 ℤ
   \frak    𝔄 𝔅 ℭ 𝔇 𝔈 𝔉 𝔊 ℌ ℑ 𝔍 𝔎 𝔏 𝔐 𝔑 𝔒 𝔓 𝔔 ℜ 𝔖 𝔗 𝔘 𝔙 𝔚 𝔛 𝔜 ℨ
   \bfrak   𝕬 𝕭 𝕮 𝕯 𝕰 𝕱 𝕲 𝕳 𝕴 𝕵 𝕶 𝕷 𝕸 𝕹 𝕺 𝕻 𝕼 𝕽 𝕾 𝕿 𝖀 𝖁 𝖂 𝖃 𝖄 𝖅
   """

   "Greek letters" =>
   raw"""
   regular α β γ δ ϵ ε ζ η θ ϑ ι κ ϰ λ μ ν ξ ο π ϖ ρ ϱ σ ς τ υ ϕ φ χ ψ ω ϝ ∂ ∇
   \it     𝛼 𝛽 𝛾 𝛿 𝜖 𝜀 𝜁 𝜂 𝜃 𝜗 𝜄 𝜅 𝜘 𝜆 𝜇 𝜈 𝜉 𝜊 𝜋 𝜛 𝜌 𝜚 𝜎 𝜍 𝜏 𝜐 𝜙 𝜑 𝜒 𝜓 𝜔   𝜕 𝛻
   \bf     𝛂 𝛃 𝛄 𝛅 𝛜 𝛆 𝛇 𝛈 𝛉 𝛝 𝛊 𝛋 𝛞 𝛌 𝛍 𝛎 𝛏 𝛐 𝛑 𝛡 𝛒 𝛠 𝛔 𝛓 𝛕 𝛖 𝛟 𝛗 𝛘 𝛙 𝛚 𝟋 𝛛 𝛁
   \bsans  𝝰 𝝱 𝝲 𝝳 𝞊 𝝴 𝝵 𝝶 𝝷 𝞋 𝝸 𝝹 𝞌 𝝺 𝝻 𝝼 𝝽 𝝾 𝝿 𝞏 𝞀 𝞎 𝞂 𝞁 𝞃 𝞄 𝞍 𝞅 𝞆 𝞇 𝞈   𝞉 𝝯
   \bi     𝜶 𝜷 𝜸 𝜹 𝝐 𝜺 𝜻 𝜼 𝜽 𝝑 𝜾 𝜿 𝝒 𝝀 𝝁 𝝂 𝝃 𝝄 𝝅 𝝕 𝝆 𝝔 𝝈 𝝇 𝝉 𝝊 𝝓 𝝋 𝝌 𝝍 𝝎   𝝏 𝜵
   \bisans 𝞪 𝞫 𝞬 𝞭 𝟄 𝞮 𝞯 𝞰 𝞱 𝟅 𝞲 𝞳 𝟆 𝞴 𝞵 𝞶 𝞷 𝞸 𝞹 𝟉 𝞺 𝟈 𝞼 𝞻 𝞽 𝞾 𝟇 𝞿 𝟀 𝟁 𝟂   𝟃 𝞩
   \bb         ℽ                               ℼ
   regular Α Β Γ Δ Ε   Ζ Η Θ ϴ Ι Κ   Λ Μ Ν Ξ Ο Π   Ρ   Σ   Τ Υ Φ   Χ Ψ Ω Ϝ
   \it     𝛢 𝛣 𝛤 𝛥 𝛦   𝛧 𝛨 𝛩 𝛳 𝛪 𝛫   𝛬 𝛭 𝛮 𝛯 𝛰 𝛱   𝛲   𝛴   𝛵 𝛶 𝛷   𝛸 𝛹 𝛺
   \bf     𝚨 𝚩 𝚪 𝚫 𝚬   𝚭 𝚮 𝚯 𝚹 𝚰 𝚱   𝚲 𝚳 𝚴 𝚵 𝚶 𝚷   𝚸   𝚺   𝚻 𝚼 𝚽   𝚾 𝚿 𝛀 𝟊
   \bsans  𝝖 𝝗 𝝘 𝝙 𝝚   𝝛 𝝜 𝝝 𝝧 𝝞 𝝟   𝝠 𝝡 𝝢 𝝣 𝝤 𝝥   𝝦   𝝨   𝝩 𝝪 𝝫   𝝬 𝝭 𝝮
   \bi     𝜜 𝜝 𝜞 𝜟 𝜠   𝜡 𝜢 𝜣 𝜭 𝜤 𝜥   𝜦 𝜧 𝜨 𝜩 𝜪 𝜫   𝜬   𝜮   𝜯 𝜰 𝜱   𝜲 𝜳 𝜴
   \bisans 𝞐 𝞑 𝞒 𝞓 𝞔   𝞕 𝞖 𝞗 𝞡 𝞘 𝞙   𝞚 𝞛 𝞜 𝞝 𝞞 𝞟   𝞠   𝞢   𝞣 𝞤 𝞥   𝞦 𝞧 𝞨
   \bb         ℾ                               ℿ
   """

shows like this in a Windows Notepad I was able to find:

Screenshot 2021-12-28 at 16 25 12

and like this on my Mac:

Screenshot 2021-12-28 at 17 05 21

The rendering in Notepad isn't too bad (some of the \bb glyphs are the oddest) but I can't see any evidence of dramatically different dimensions.

I'll leave this open until more clues emerge!

cormullion avatar Dec 28 '21 17:12 cormullion

Thanks!! The future shall tell :)

nandoconde avatar Dec 28 '21 18:12 nandoconde

Seems safe to chalk this up to Notepad's font rendering being broken.

Font size 10: image

Font size 11: image

Font size 12: image

pfitzseb avatar Jul 15 '22 16:07 pfitzseb

Thanks for doing this... I think it must be that.

I just haven't got the skill, energy, or time to do manual hinting for the font, and the automatic hinting does odd things sometimes. And it makes me unhappy seeing the outlines mangled by OS font-rendering - it's like looking in a really unflattering mirror... :)

cormullion avatar Jul 15 '22 16:07 cormullion

But don't worry! Except for that, everything works fine in JuliaFont and it's awesome!

Maybe one day a person with the skill, enegy and time will be able to look into this 😉

nandoconde avatar Jul 16 '22 08:07 nandoconde

This issue has been open for 30 days with no activity.

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