[TOC Artificial Intelligence Initiatives Meeting] 2025-06-20

[riaankleinhans]

Hosts:

@zanetworker @raravena80 @joshhalley

Note Taker:

Volunteers needed

Time and Zoom

8am PT https://zoom-lfx.platform.linuxfoundation.org/meeting/96058530101?password=1b424910-5d44-493f-b3ef-0c7ccd8de312.

Recurring Items

• LF Antitrust Policy
• TAG Folder
• TOC SubProjects Folder
• Welcome new meeting attendees

Agenda

• Standing items
• WG / Initiative updates
• Issues in repo: https://github.com/orgs/cncf/projects/38/views/1
  • Scheduling Paper Updates [CM] [PUBLIC] Scheduling for Cloud Native AI Whitepaper [email protected]
  • Sustainability: [WHITEPAPER] Sustainable AI in Cloud-Native Environments [email protected]
  • Security Paper [DP] AI Sec Whitepaper link - Josh Halley ​​
  • [JH] Proposal on K8s Agentic standards update. Kubernetes Agentic AI Standards
  • Update on CNAI modelspec
  • MCP Update on the K8s context https://github.com/cncf/tag-runtime/issues/212
  • [JH] Otel has a semantic convention WG - Ricardo Aravena/Josh Halley OpenTelemetry LLM Semantic Convention WG
  • https://github.com/cncf/toc/issues/1740 @caldeirav
  • https://github.com/cncf/toc/issues/1746 @caldeirav

Attendance:

[joshhalley]

Please find the initial draft minutes for review (please update in the case I missed or misrepresented any key topics)

Hosts:

@zanetworker @raravena80 @joshhalley

Note Taker: Volunteers needed

Time and Zoom 8am PT / 17:00 CET https://zoom-lfx.platform.linuxfoundation.org/meeting/96058530101?password=1b424910-5d44-493f-b3ef-0c7ccd8de312

Recurring Items

LF Antitrust Policy TAG Folder TOC SubProjects Folder

Welcome new meeting attendees

• Anuj Tyagi
• Dominik Kawka (Redhat)
• Mike Tsai
• Jesse Stutler (first time joining this WG)
• Rajendra Gosavi
• Nicholas Jackson (Hashicorp/IBM)
• Riaan Kleinhans (Program Manager)
• Kevin Wang (Huawei)
• Paras Patel

Agenda

Standing items

WG / Initiative updates

Issues in repo: CNCF CN AI Working Group Project (view) https://github.com/orgs/cncf/projects/38/views/1

Scheduling Paper Updates [CM] [PUBLIC] Scheduling for Cloud Native AI Whitepaper [email protected] (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KNmTKwI_cRXZ0KVBqdBhkO1EuS4PhLIUvT16Y2a5erU/edit)

• Paper has been in progress for over 12 months (currently out of date, needs to be trimmed - less than 10 pages)
• Some new, up to date content needs to be contributed here

Sustainability: [WHITEPAPER] Sustainable AI in Cloud-Native Environments [email protected]

• Split into two parts to make it more concise
• Link to be shared with minutes Security Paper[DP] AI Sec Whitepaper link
• TOC Issue raised and currently under reviewed
• Follow up needed within the TOC to push this along (Kevin to follow up on this item)

[JH] Proposal on K8s Agentic standards update. Kubernetes Agentic AI Standards issue raised

• Please reach out if you want to contribute
• turn around by end of July
• Paras to support on endpoint exposure

Update on CNAI modelspec

• Call out for anybody who feels like they want to contribute #modelpack slack channel
• using OCI to distribute the models
• https://cloud-native.slack.com/archives/C07T0V480LF

MCP Update on the K8s context Standardize MCP Servers and Tool Ecosystem Across Cloud-Native Categories tag-runtime#212

• Ongoing conversation around how standardization can/should look
• Most implementations today are not utilizing the full suite of capabilities
• Submission is focused more around ensuring guidance systems can communicate more effectively with one another
• Align with Adel and define next steps (Paras to contribute)

[JH] Otel has a semantic convention WG - Ricardo Aravena/Josh Halley OpenTelemetry LLM Semantic Convention WG [Initiative]: Cloud Native and OCI Compliant Inner-Loop Tooling & Packaging for AI Engineers #1740 @caldeirav [Initiative]: Cloud-Native Foundations for Distributed Agentic Systems #1746 @caldeirav

• Paras indicated that having standardization here could be helpful
• (https://github.com/modelcontextprotocol/modelcontextprotocol/discussions/269 https://github.com/modelcontextprotocol/modelcontextprotocol/discussions/801)
• Ricardo - would be good to have common standards in this domain

AOB:

• VIctor Lu - raised the topic of how we can best collaborate from a K8s perspective with the MCP community
• Jesse Stutler - raised how to contribute to the scheduling whitepaper, Ricardo recommended to start a new doc as the content is a bit stale (target size is 10 pages)

[rajendragosavi]

Is there any Slack channel for coordinating the efforts?

[riaankleinhans]

Is there any Slack channel for coordinating the efforts?

https://cloud-native.slack.com/archives/C08Q78J65A7