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Liquid fuel decals now ignite & Toxic no longer destroys weeds
About the pull request
Someone went to the trouble of making liquid fuel spread out into decals when spilled, but didn't make it ignitable. This PR fixes that. I also made it spread more randomly, evaporates over time, and removed the effect of toxic removing weeds (because now you can ignite fuel instead).
Fuel duration when ignited this way depends on the amount. If its >= 7.5 its the normal flame duration of 20. As it approaches 0, this duration approaches 0.
See change log for more details.
Explain why it's good for the game
For those that can't figure this out from the contents of the PR:
- It replaces the toxic property: -- Chemicals evaporating weeds because fuel is dumped on them makes no sense -- Fire burning weeds makes sense -- Toxic property allowed marines to gas themselves with no penalty using masks; now they have to clear the flames or take burn damage if they for whatever reason want to advance into it or explode a gigantic researcher bomb w/o fear of massive friendly fire
- Yes the PR results in more access to fire, and I imagine marines to find this fun
- Yes xenos won't like marines having more access to fire, but now this effect is localized within walls unlike before (toxic property would affect walls - or atleast was coded to, liquid fuel can't enter wall tiles)
- Yes xenos won't like marines having more access to fire, but based on feedback it has reduced duration if you don't have a lot of fuel in that one tile. Its duration now lasts at most as long as a smoke cloud.
- Yes xenos won't like marines having more access to fire, but based on feedback it has reduced dmg to xenos so there shouldn't be much fear about entering it and its not like xenos can't deal with fire.
- Flamers can affect walls, and they're a stronger fire variant (AKA this is not some superior substitute)
- I also based on feedback reduced the size of smoke, and drastically reduced the amount of reagents it multiplies magically by 4
- Yes that means that smoke is nerfed but like it needs nerfs. Running through smoke and getting 1 minute of effects is silly; with the 4x reduction in reagent now its 20s of effects if you run though it. -- Disrupting 5 now https://youtu.be/DK74U_63BPU 15.5/90 which then lasted from about 00:05 to 00:23 -- Disrupting 5 before https://youtu.be/njUplZvdN28 53.4444/90 which then lasted from about 00:06 to 01:02
- Why do sprayers need longer use delays? It was silly to have 0 delay and it makes situations like this incredibly difficult to balance
- Why do sprayers need less capacity? To achieve more reasonable use counts.
- Why do sprayers lose their 10 reagent spray amount? Because it really had no purpose and just made balancing this harder.
- Why are weedkiller grenades removed? Because they don't do anything with these changes so don't have a point of existing.
- Why did I refactor code? Because I'm trying to progressively make the code better as I work on it.
- Why do I make changes to the game? I don't know at this point for all the shit I take, but its to improve the game despite what people may think.
Testing Photographs and Procedure
Screenshots & Videos
~~Ignition testing: https://youtu.be/6L6j1y5iEgY~~
~~Spread changes: https://youtu.be/dyuAgNStJCk~~
~~Previous version: https://youtu.be/bglRtKG0Phg~~
~~Lighter (heat source) support: https://youtu.be/3WM9VnaI8to~~
~~Current version after sprayer and fuel pressure tweaks: https://youtu.be/Q0Y_S1S8OIU~~
Latest latest again: https://youtu.be/CDmB445A-6I
Chem smoke comparison for disrupting:
- Disrupting 5 in this PR now just running through it youtu.be/DK74U_63BPU (15.5/90 which then lasted from about 00:05 to 00:23)
- Disrupting 5 on master youtu.be/njUplZvdN28 (53.4444 which then lasted from about 00:06 to 01:02)
Changelog
:cl: Drathek add: Added ignition and evaporation to liquid fuel spills (its duration might be reduced if there is little fuel present and it only does greenfire damage); also randomized its spread and marked it as harmful (checked for synths and extinguishers) balance: Removed the weed removal aspect of the toxic property (since now toxic welding fuel is ignitable) balance: Spray bottles volume reduced from 250->150 but default amount per transfer reduced from 10->5 (25 uses->30 uses; 10 is no longer an option) balance: Water backpack sprayer volume reduced from 500->250 (100 uses->50 uses) balance: Spray bottles use delay increased from 0.5/0.25 seconds->1.5 seconds balance: Water backpack sprayer delay increased from 0 seconds->3.5 seconds balance: Chem smoke now spreads 4x less reagents and smoke flamer range was reduced from 5 to 4 del: Removed antiweed grenades and loadouts (replaced a survivor loadout with a fuel filled watertank instead) fix: Fixed some potential ways for sprayers to be used to spray harmful substances by synths fix: Fixed liquid fuel stacking extra amounts depending on the quantity of objects in the turf refactor: Refactored logic for chem sprayer and synth foam backpack sprayer /:cl:
IMPORTANT QUESTION: What about that dude or people who uses welding fuel to kill weeds? Also this opens up for a huge ppssible griefed rounds and "aheal all humans" button mashing. Coincidentally this will induce admins to start bwoinking such people.
IMPORTANT QUESTION: What about that dude or people who uses welding fuel to kill weeds?
they're going to set people on fire because they're spraying fuel everywhere, obviously
IMPORTANT QUESTION: What about that dude or people who uses welding fuel to kill weeds? Also this opens up for a huge ppssible griefed rounds and "aheal all humans" button mashing. Coincidentally this will induce admins to start bwoinking such people.
See latest testing video in description.
See latest testing video in description.
This does look an easy and nice change, aside from that weed killer guy having much-much harder time acquiring toxic chemicals for weed killing since welding fuel isnt toxic anymore.
Have you also tested the watertank backpack's spreadability? It may become a new way of spreading flammable tiles to cause mass destruction.
Have you also tested the watertank backpack's spreadability? It may become a new way of spreading flammable tiles to cause mass destruction.
Its a quick way to spread a line, but it will only last ~30s because it spreads a small amount unless you keep going over it again and again.
Hm... now that the concept of spray-to-kill-weeds is deleted (before this, any chems with TXC property can kill weeds), what about "Plant-B-Gone"? I heard it is hard coded to kill xeno weeds. Oh and also Dinitroaniline. And is it possible to have a work around on removing the such concept of "spray weeds to kill weeds" or someone else will have to make changes themselves?
This removes features
Namely TXC interaction with weeds which is a step back from gas mechanics which are already rarely used in research. It means research can never intentionally develop weedkiller on purpose.
Honestly it would be much simpler and better to just change TXC to another trait for welding fuel.
To add to the others comment I will expline the issue with Rsr weed killer. Thier are 2 main types of weed killer weapons in use.
The most well known is using a flamethower with smoke. This is the weed eater special. It uses welding fuel and is super deadly to humans. However now a days real pros don't use welding fuel anymore and instead use fluroine gas.
The other type is only really used by Rsr. It is called a weedkiller nuke and uses fluorine gas. This is when you mix over 300u of smoke mixed with fluorine. This makes a giant cloud of weed killer.
So this PR makes weedkiller nukes not really possible to make anymore. For 2 reasons. The first being now fluroine gas is useless so i must use welding fuel so i can light it on fire. But welding fuel is still super toxic. The main reasons why Rsr use fluroine is cause it far less toxic to humans then fuel. Also unlike with fuel fluroine gas won't set a human who is smokeing on fire. The second being that the only way it can kill weeds is by using fire.
I imagine any Rsr using a weedkiller nuke that set half the map on fire will get boinked. Even if they didn't the marines will likely arrest them for setting people on fire.
But I suggest you have our cake and eat it too.
Revert toxin not killing weeds. Let fluorine gas kill weeds like it used to. Then jsut remove the TXC from welding fuel and replace it something like biotic. Something that still damages reckless use of it as weedkiller. If you do this don't give welding fuel corrosive cause that will melt marines gear and armor.
I do not want there to be weed killer gas. I want weeds killed with fire. "Plant-B-Gone" and "Dinitroaniline" both relied on the Toxic property to kill weeds which do not have effects on xeno weeds with this PR.
I do not want there to be weed killer gas. I want weeds killed with fire. "Plant-B-Gone" and "Dinitroaniline" both relied on the Toxic property to kill weeds which do not have effects on xeno weeds with this PR.
After hearing the actual motive of removing the ability of TXC killing weeds, it now feels like weed-killer (the concept before this change/PR) has been un-legacy-fied. It has been rebalanced/reworked by forcing both sides to be becareful with fuel tiles they can see on the ground. In another bit of side of marines, they benefit by the light source of fire, xenos being "scared away", and denying weeds on the area.
By the way, would lighters/matches also light such tiles on tile if clicked on? Or would that involve in making liquid tiles clickable?
By the way, would lighters/matches also light such tiles on tile if clicked on? Or would that involve in making liquid tiles clickable?
Lighters use an attack proc to activate thermite, so yes right now they don't do anything to liquid fuel and I don't want to make the fuel clickable. But I suppose I could make it where lighters when they enter a tile with fuel and if they're lit they specifically interact with liquid fuel.
By the way, would lighters/matches also light such tiles on tile if clicked on? Or would that involve in making liquid tiles clickable?
Lighters use an attack proc to activate thermite, so yes right now they don't do anything to liquid fuel and I don't want to make the fuel clickable. But I suppose I could make it where lighters when they enter a tile with fuel and if they're lit they specifically interact with liquid fuel.
Will there be any code pertaining to how the spread of fuel tiles and their activity is related to RnD properties? Or is that a wyci
So you just going to remove weed killer nuke flat out. Because as I said before if i use welding fuel in a weedkiller nuke I might get boniked. Cause i would start and ocean of fire. Even I did not get boniked I would get arrested or have the CO deny using them at all.
Weedkiller nuke require a lot of work to get going. It's not like you just make them on mass at most you can get 1 or 2.
A lot of people really liked weed killer nukes and now we wont be to use them anymore.
Like i said we could have our cake and eat it too. By just removeing the TXC effect from welding fuel. I don't know why you have to remove all form of weedkiller outside of fire. Cause i use a fire based weedkiler nuke i may get banned.
Will there be any code pertaining to how the spread of fuel tiles and their activity is related to RnD properties? Or is that a wyci
I don't know what you mean, but if you mean ways to modify making it spread easier, no I would not allow that.
... weed killer nuke...
I've already answered
I do not want there to be weed killer gas. I want weeds killed with fire.
Are we able to at least extuingher-spray the tiles so they evaporate faster...
Are we able to at least extuingher-spray the tiles so they evaporate faster...
Its still coded as a cleanable, so not via extinguishers, but via cleaning agents yes.
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Test Merge Updated @ 11/24/2025 09:36:55 +00:00:
Server Instance
CM13 Live
Revision
Origin: 10906b7778a18b44c8f2eec94d9a3749bcfc96d5 Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 02d0badbd910359896c052d0232c49ecc131b712
Test Merge Updated @ 11/24/2025 13:08:29 +00:00:
Server Instance
CM13 Live
Revision
Origin: 35bb04f06fe5ee3a66c7cbde2f0b00047f5fefea Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: c86b67f0cad8aff9f5b418f53d9059ffc6339623
Test Merge Updated @ 11/24/2025 15:30:42 +00:00:
Server Instance
Revision
Origin: 35bb04f06fe5ee3a66c7cbde2f0b00047f5fefea Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: d8bedcf94fd34268bcccb8d1a72662da4067b238
Test Merge Updated @ 11/24/2025 16:16:59 +00:00:
Server Instance
Revision
Origin: 35bb04f06fe5ee3a66c7cbde2f0b00047f5fefea Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 180d9e6746ba02f49037d7b95b35aaa3b9b43e55
Test Merge Updated @ 11/25/2025 02:12:41 +00:00:
Server Instance
CM13 Live
Revision
Origin: 6791e451bc811407b6daf545a6cf8e3535ee4e4c Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 04631a7803fdc162af7f81b7cd3f352782338d49
Test Merge Updated @ 11/25/2025 15:51:45 +00:00:
Server Instance
Revision
Origin: 6791e451bc811407b6daf545a6cf8e3535ee4e4c Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 0c7b0c28a38461111633d0def523f52f98c8443d
Test Merge Updated @ 11/25/2025 21:19:15 +00:00:
Server Instance
Revision
Origin: 6791e451bc811407b6daf545a6cf8e3535ee4e4c Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: c09f7e03a804e46905a493d2de435f22c200b2ae
Test Merge Updated @ 11/26/2025 03:29:08 +00:00:
Server Instance
Revision
Origin: 6791e451bc811407b6daf545a6cf8e3535ee4e4c Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 56a9bfda178f0faed1d51129ff43f8e4ebeecd56
Test Merge Updated @ 11/26/2025 21:32:50 +00:00:
Server Instance
Revision
Origin: 6791e451bc811407b6daf545a6cf8e3535ee4e4c Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 8f41541f3685a5a469c9df07594317cda63e0b21
Test Merge Updated @ 11/26/2025 23:44:06 +00:00:
Server Instance
Revision
Origin: 6791e451bc811407b6daf545a6cf8e3535ee4e4c Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 1ce6e571cb0c59be934639ef37812a7affb1ed4b
Test Merge Updated @ 11/27/2025 14:27:57 +00:00:
Server Instance
Revision
Origin: 6791e451bc811407b6daf545a6cf8e3535ee4e4c Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: c466d203aa9e461150d01d36a151e91b394befb6
Test Merge Updated @ 11/28/2025 02:33:00 +00:00:
Server Instance
CM13 Live
Revision
Origin: b6a976b3c84dd985a21784f73d052def17459209 Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: bbc8fd442a1d3a3c646f61398112a25fb956b341
Test Merge Updated @ 11/28/2025 12:05:58 +00:00:
Server Instance
Revision
Origin: b6a976b3c84dd985a21784f73d052def17459209 Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: a6d573e68520e967f0ca4e077fed16267f507169
Test Merge Updated @ 11/28/2025 13:35:33 +00:00:
Server Instance
Revision
Origin: b6a976b3c84dd985a21784f73d052def17459209 Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 84aef40722a856cc18c0f498736505d3e46dbc4c
Test Merge Updated @ 11/28/2025 19:38:16 +00:00:
Server Instance
Revision
Origin: b6a976b3c84dd985a21784f73d052def17459209 Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: c6d53fae7be0376aed6a1d89f55a6b97d3a10b9f
Test Merge Updated @ 11/29/2025 02:10:17 +00:00:
Server Instance
CM13 Live
Revision
Origin: eaebcdc7f433220e071f7059bf6eb31a3429c37b Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 5b2991034d2c6fe3a137c37ba73c118345e1d1aa
Test Merge Updated @ 11/29/2025 05:57:28 +00:00:
Server Instance
Revision
Origin: eaebcdc7f433220e071f7059bf6eb31a3429c37b Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 05ac882c03c040a731fd187ff4297249fabb2710
Test Merge Updated @ 11/29/2025 23:45:35 +00:00:
Server Instance
CM13 Live
Revision
Origin: f9ab870bf7325e222754cb859e776ac8f50a408f Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 55b4cfc65fc90352f4a36664947ff347113fea70
Test Merge Updated @ 11/30/2025 00:16:30 +00:00:
Server Instance
CM13 Live
Revision
Origin: d1b32ca11275270db9bf5a65960072a99f24ec35 Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: eed2c44d75cf85b10f455e61ef08c8bd1833b8a8
Test Merge Updated @ 11/30/2025 02:17:40 +00:00:
Server Instance
CM13 Live
Revision
Origin: 326376961030f270705b1f79aa9612938e689fe9 Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: a6eb3bf0a692797848ac8fbabc3141ae726bfb9a
Test Merge Updated @ 11/30/2025 12:26:58 +00:00:
Server Instance
Revision
Origin: 326376961030f270705b1f79aa9612938e689fe9 Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: fde86419cb3aa0874de49bc1a7d71b9d446e60fe
Test Merge Updated @ 11/30/2025 12:35:58 +00:00:
Server Instance
Revision
Origin: 326376961030f270705b1f79aa9612938e689fe9 Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 3437a86f3d4b0c897a4b23278efddf4c1f568a75
Test Merge Updated @ 11/30/2025 15:51:20 +00:00:
Server Instance
CM13 Live
Revision
Origin: 399ef232e81430162220d58bb86c53c1111a51ca Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 6f48151d4724c168e2fa82beb6498a78541ad333
Test Merge Updated @ 12/01/2025 00:12:52 +00:00:
Server Instance
Revision
Origin: 399ef232e81430162220d58bb86c53c1111a51ca Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: f6f3a0f4c7288a919801ca9179583ca4c6216bc4
Test Merge Updated @ 12/01/2025 02:24:25 +00:00:
Server Instance
CM13 Live
Revision
Origin: a9eaa05076544ef3451a87e0781bfc46fb8723d6 Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 8085449bbe9c142c0e516eaa747507f88a298feb
Test Merge Updated @ 12/01/2025 17:58:44 +00:00:
Server Instance
CM13 Live
Revision
Origin: 1719ee43f983ae46841fcdd636bf9bc4c80706d0 Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: ed8d327221f50c4bc830d22ea8da0be5d0e33417
Test Merge Updated @ 12/02/2025 01:31:17 +00:00:
Server Instance
CM13 Live
Revision
Origin: ca215fa09ccc2956f80d0ac8178c254d3c797379 Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 983746829fad5fb355c56b68ad43de74ded997c4
Test Merge Updated @ 12/02/2025 02:02:12 +00:00:
Server Instance
CM13 Live
Revision
Origin: 1be59b9c167ad98b4f254a662339e7c46b4bdede Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 041d8e0685165049e733cd0325d8275bdf97d7a4
Test Merge Updated @ 12/02/2025 02:33:05 +00:00:
Server Instance
CM13 Live
Revision
Origin: 774f19c9c80aa6b648f4f35a877e9dff988fa9b6 Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 6cc671b8276768fe7ad7b256a832ad539d88b860
Test Merge Updated @ 12/02/2025 03:03:59 +00:00:
Server Instance
CM13 Live
Revision
Origin: 3d0e7d18bdb6253695a30d5ea1f310354d148104 Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 331c4d5b845b264055b89e83c58984e3df38af06
Test Merge Updated @ 12/02/2025 03:34:53 +00:00:
Server Instance
CM13 Live
Revision
Origin: 1fcee2d4df49f8ebefb63ee1fc8a541ac30340ce Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 8b3933a66ae70d27b9de6e36bb1883d47a3b8e7c
Test Merge Updated @ 12/02/2025 04:05:46 +00:00:
Server Instance
CM13 Live
Revision
Origin: a25221ea89382996452fa56dd1aef2f53d10c4e0 Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 12072a51c6bd3b6f4f9f60744f258b228774c61d
Test Merge Updated @ 12/02/2025 08:07:26 +00:00:
Server Instance
CM13 Live
Revision
Origin: 4a1504dabf365edde6bec2d1a075e0309ddaa959 Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 92d9547536da5677278852f5dcf8d0b2e085fb4b
Test Merge Updated @ 12/02/2025 15:09:48 +00:00:
Server Instance
CM13 Live
Revision
Origin: 412111c92ed607a21fd36a50819e64a72e92cf8d Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: e54ca6908a6878235c662e3faccb1bc93b3e7a13
Test Merge Updated @ 12/02/2025 15:40:42 +00:00:
Server Instance
CM13 Live
Revision
Origin: 46f8e9af81d35715e9fa34b4e50f8c1bb45c3f1c Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 223aa913905b40d05543dcbdf9ce24ba4a2c7aa9
Test Merge Updated @ 12/02/2025 16:13:06 +00:00:
Server Instance
Revision
Origin: 46f8e9af81d35715e9fa34b4e50f8c1bb45c3f1c Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 6df3004572cd7536c5b9cf2f329ed18d2574a51f
Test Merge Updated @ 12/02/2025 19:26:40 +00:00:
Server Instance
Revision
Origin: 46f8e9af81d35715e9fa34b4e50f8c1bb45c3f1c Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 1301ba412cbf8ff3e138d322381af2496b695ec4
Test Merge Updated @ 12/02/2025 20:26:34 +00:00:
Server Instance
Revision
Origin: 46f8e9af81d35715e9fa34b4e50f8c1bb45c3f1c Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 1b905ef0aeec26d378ff339474139fa75380ed7c
Test Merge Updated @ 12/02/2025 21:40:00 +00:00:
Server Instance
Revision
Origin: 46f8e9af81d35715e9fa34b4e50f8c1bb45c3f1c Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 662ffc186c076b121e0cf076f4dc62fee9dc4339
Test Merge Updated @ 12/02/2025 23:13:03 +00:00:
Server Instance
CM13 Live
Revision
Origin: ed3d4a5c65e2a276a07bd94a59e8331c49e7ec1f Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: c88edc01481add7f2cd75dedb727c559cabf2570
Test Merge Updated @ 12/03/2025 02:14:20 +00:00:
Server Instance
CM13 Live
Revision
Origin: facc5b87e92a6c7941e57f41de6f31133de1f027 Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: baa849904ce1f212e02e043fe9e0073befba1d80
Test Merge Updated @ 12/03/2025 02:40:20 +00:00:
Server Instance
Revision
Origin: facc5b87e92a6c7941e57f41de6f31133de1f027 Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 2583c7bae0463526a89c3cc5529db82f16101321
Test Merge Updated @ 12/03/2025 02:51:59 +00:00:
Server Instance
Revision
Origin: facc5b87e92a6c7941e57f41de6f31133de1f027 Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 2985be0b09e33d329738224c60725cce124e1aed
Test Merge Updated @ 12/03/2025 18:03:40 +00:00:
Server Instance
Revision
Origin: facc5b87e92a6c7941e57f41de6f31133de1f027 Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 68bbf547fea800bf6f31df39f9a794cbc548c65d
Test Merge Updated @ 12/04/2025 00:49:45 +00:00:
Server Instance
CM13 Live
Revision
Origin: f25215c62c0f5ccc561af87573020a0ae5158b77 Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 63dff382f4c41cb9c4693a3b3aba668797a314f4
Test Merge Updated @ 12/04/2025 01:20:36 +00:00:
Server Instance
CM13 Live
Revision
Origin: 68ef06a9cc9611ffc660a9a823dbc45775532479 Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: d15c55c89cd87c97a6188410e60d88f55ee69bec
Test Merge Updated @ 12/04/2025 02:21:34 +00:00:
Server Instance
CM13 Live
Revision
Origin: ffff9cabaaa43fb2eb6ceb77756d8610e290fa8e Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: f2f3c9f68423a5f4dbd9690889e8d2e9ee8510a3
Test Merge Updated @ 12/05/2025 14:49:54 +00:00:
Server Instance
Revision
Origin: db1a0450658a98e158b1d1de157c3bd32e0552c8 Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 61e8d8de88ec629d319e6097c5fb804756afd340
Test Merge Updated @ 12/06/2025 00:54:09 +00:00:
Server Instance
Revision
Origin: db1a0450658a98e158b1d1de157c3bd32e0552c8 Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 7cc3aca06595f3abdf9a59a7b9c76e0a91c0affe
Test Merge Updated @ 12/06/2025 01:55:35 +00:00:
Server Instance
CM13 Live
Revision
Origin: 136642d9146cebf870630e3a240b33300bf81d39 Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 6f94a3f8dd13b82c99876858cebff2274a100464
Test Merge Updated @ 12/06/2025 12:28:23 +00:00:
Server Instance
CM13 Live
Revision
Origin: a92899de4220f5af30d7a8a893a8978f7b3e96aa Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 86e465e50a2f019311b06623580cf8de00313163
Test Merge Updated @ 12/06/2025 12:59:17 +00:00:
Server Instance
CM13 Live
Revision
Origin: 6836f5ec0aebce209828232c3284aaec0aebb278 Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: afaac5d249d061720af3b2476f8ef72d7e8c7e0d
Test Merge Updated @ 12/06/2025 13:33:32 +00:00:
Server Instance
Revision
Origin: 45311d55743c1094f6ac2c2fdbfceb26cad727bb Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: e8e0fa5a6466c75242574271c708fe610c4ab648
Test Merge Updated @ 12/06/2025 14:00:39 +00:00:
Server Instance
CM13 Live
Revision
Origin: 08471d30bdf88e30921cf8291502606c98758e4a Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 432d0a716ed1defdef8700049d8d31ad07ad6e07
Test Merge Updated @ 12/07/2025 02:33:53 +00:00:
Server Instance
CM13 Live
Revision
Origin: 07faaef76c531d97c91626d071f912290d2c29cb Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: a774756ce4e7cd615b70c42033c6cbb3c7268ef6
Test Merge Updated @ 12/08/2025 15:42:05 +00:00:
Server Instance
CM13 Live
Revision
Origin: 854fb18cc3485374f8da69cb00a6dc41cbda757e Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 559a665c527619a02072dcbe16511bb5fc2d8579
Test Merge Updated @ 12/08/2025 16:58:31 +00:00:
Server Instance
Revision
Origin: 854fb18cc3485374f8da69cb00a6dc41cbda757e Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 79e8db0ffef8600eb798f9976ae90686b6c4ab90
Test Merge Updated @ 12/08/2025 18:01:25 +00:00:
Server Instance
Revision
Origin: 854fb18cc3485374f8da69cb00a6dc41cbda757e Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 4a6ef05255b331c0e1c1e4217d5b7ccc78d7122b
Test Merge Updated @ 12/08/2025 18:43:32 +00:00:
Server Instance
CM13 Live
Revision
Origin: e38451a5751b4b45fdb3d2d70150f60cd17cdf95 Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 973707e3e9492a95185a3d5e7e1d2bc2b6595886
Test Merge Updated @ 12/09/2025 02:15:47 +00:00:
Server Instance
CM13 Live
Revision
Origin: 0961a28b81bc9846e87b5570b5e8fad6a08681e2 Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: c6d8d03ac8473c525ad5a0a395ba1d5ba267b94d
Test Merge Updated @ 12/09/2025 06:17:16 +00:00:
Server Instance
CM13 Live
Revision
Origin: 9522576d820e336c44636dc962ba26d387bf188d Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 39138783266fa79f706f83a33b45d2cc0e904374
Test Merge Updated @ 12/09/2025 07:18:30 +00:00:
Server Instance
Revision
Origin: 9522576d820e336c44636dc962ba26d387bf188d Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 5dd23ecca10fb16a2bb38648fd92b2e26741ce3b
Test Merge Updated @ 12/09/2025 17:21:14 +00:00:
Server Instance
CM13 Live
Revision
Origin: 1c9c670087220ebe3a829e3b810b470210e91ad5 Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: d5fbb7775086aee3b271cb323f90269715133eb2
Test Merge Updated @ 12/09/2025 17:52:07 +00:00:
Server Instance
CM13 Live
Revision
Origin: 70542bc7c5ca2bd5d4f1440cf2306ff998c6f878 Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: c067662dad8978ff54a9c1965a0dce2f54ef778b
Test Merge Updated @ 12/09/2025 18:22:59 +00:00:
Server Instance
CM13 Live
Revision
Origin: 409653f3697fde300847da0ebdd89a2b5093c9cf Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 871d15d636dd708032666a0329e011ab9742cf74
Test Merge Updated @ 12/09/2025 18:34:30 +00:00:
Server Instance
Revision
Origin: 9b054dd54c69d8e363f4f4f196190bec21d7474e Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: cb90649eea8c8576e036b7f3802ceb7f0d7f303e
Test Merge Updated @ 12/09/2025 18:54:48 +00:00:
Server Instance
Revision
Origin: 9b054dd54c69d8e363f4f4f196190bec21d7474e Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 2f0201ea13af26ed4196230f64b118bf6b32c83c
Test Merge Updated @ 12/09/2025 20:17:29 +00:00:
Server Instance
Revision
Origin: f904c78f9ef09772307ff14675611fa3fb539678 Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: a9d826eddb317c3328b172bd3ab249741f52dc1c
Test Merge Updated @ 12/10/2025 01:39:37 +00:00:
Server Instance
Revision
Origin: 5b61b333dee8e6bae8e290681a07b030bb2bcd5a Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 082967ba9841a154210bc0c87295cfaae37b98db
Test Merge Updated @ 12/10/2025 01:50:53 +00:00:
Server Instance
Revision
Origin: 5b61b333dee8e6bae8e290681a07b030bb2bcd5a Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 07857afd9a1fc484797c3a296e0a91d6fd449172
Test Merge Updated @ 12/10/2025 02:25:11 +00:00:
Server Instance
CM13 Live
Revision
Origin: 0b06e2e1d6333e3d393032367a0e328610958084 Pull Request: fd225b3883358abacec76b1c7b74d569989fcf65 Server: 1f042281d71a2740d21852a7de85cb4d3b06fc0f
Test Merge Updated @ 12/10/2025 20:22:08 +00:00:
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Nerfed sprayers and flame duration potentially based on amount of reagent in the liquid fuel spill. See description for details and a new demonstration video.
doesnt this PR breaks weedkiller grenades ? if the intended behaviour is to make welding fuel not delete weeds maybe it should only kill xeno weeds if it reaches a threshold. ex. level 5
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New changes:
balance: Chem smoke now spreads 4x less reagents and smoke flamer range was reduced from 5 to 4 del: Removed antiweed grenades and loadouts (replaced a survivor loadout with a fuel filled watertank instead)
New changes:
balance: Chem smoke now spreads 4x less reagents and smoke flamer range was reduced from 5 to 4
uhm doesnt that change obliterates research smoke ? with so low volumes of reagent on smoke it will do nothing when used with the research chems.
a better option would be to just nerf the welding fuel cleanables instead.
New changes:
balance: Chem smoke now spreads 4x less reagents and smoke flamer range was reduced from 5 to 4
uhm doesnt that change obliterates research smoke ? with so low volumes of reagent on smoke it will do nothing when used with the research chems.
a better option would be to just nerf the welding fuel cleanables instead.
I am content with the results Disrupting 5 in this PR now just running through it https://youtu.be/DK74U_63BPU (15.5/90 which then lasted from about 00:05 to 00:23) Disrupting 5 on master https://youtu.be/njUplZvdN28 (53.4444 which then lasted from about 00:06 to 01:02)
harmfull var is made specifically for synths , adding fueling may break some things , i think rather you should just force extinguishers to be only refillable with water
harmfull var is made specifically for synths , adding fueling may break some things , i think rather you should just force extinguishers to be only refillable with water
If I remember correctly, extuingishers already cannot be filled with anything but water. (Only accepts water rather)
Even if you manage to swap it out, the reagents used will not be carried over by the extuingisher's mist-particles. (Transparent blue things that move forward)
harmfull var is made specifically for synths , adding fueling may break some things , i think rather you should just force extinguishers to be only refillable with water
If I remember correctly, extuingishers already cannot be filled with anything but water. (Only accepts water rather) Even if you manage to swap it out, the reagents used will not be carried over by the extuingisher's
mist-particles. (Transparent blue things that move forward)
thats false , why do you think there is a literal check . all it neeeds is a water tank. any chemical that passes the synth check is automatically allowed
New changes:
balance: Chem smoke now spreads 4x less reagents and smoke flamer range was reduced from 5 to 4
uhm doesnt that change obliterates research smoke ? with so low volumes of reagent on smoke it will do nothing when used with the research chems. a better option would be to just nerf the welding fuel cleanables instead.
I am content with the results Disrupting 5 in this PR now just running through it https://youtu.be/DK74U_63BPU (15.5/90 which then lasted from about 00:05 to 00:23) Disrupting 5 on master https://youtu.be/njUplZvdN28 (53.4444 which then lasted from about 00:06 to 01:02)
I have to ask, considering I am one of 2 people who actually makes research smoke - why have touch effects on research properties if they're going to be both this expensive, this ineffective at what they do and still be an option that doesn't do any damage to xenomorphs? What is this nerf even directed at? Utilizing smokes with research properties wasn't even a popular or consistent strategy in the game, and now effectively doesn't exist.
If they don't have touch effects they don't work.
Kivts may tweak things more in the future with research stuff (its still IMO OP how large research explosions can be but players didn't immediately make this a problem for me to address it immediately in this PR).