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Unphysical IsoTrack pt

Open vlimant opened this issue 1 year ago • 10 comments

Mirroring an issue opened under xpog gitlab https://gitlab.cern.ch/cms-nanoAOD/xpog-coordination/-/issues/40 so that this can be followed up on here.

There are events with unphysical IsoTrack_pt, e.g. in WF 2500.312 (ttbar UL18):

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In that WF, all the 11 tracks with pt>6500 are flagged as isPFcand and isFromLostTrack.

vlimant avatar Jun 20 '24 12:06 vlimant

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A new Issue was created by @vlimant.

@antoniovilela, @Dr15Jones, @smuzaffar, @makortel, @rappoccio, @sextonkennedy can you please review it and eventually sign/assign? Thanks.

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cmsbuild avatar Jun 20 '24 12:06 cmsbuild

Is anywhere supposed to be a clamp of pt? Surely not at track level, 1/p(t) can be zero for what the track fit is concerned.

VinInn avatar Jun 20 '24 13:06 VinInn

ah, this is just about large values of track pt. I misread as if there were NaNs and infinities when in gitlab 40 I suggested to open an issue here.

Now that I read this more correctly, I agree with Vincenzo. This is a non-issue

slava77 avatar Jun 20 '24 14:06 slava77

You're going too fast for me ; are you saying that 40TeV track are physical ?

vlimant avatar Jun 21 '24 07:06 vlimant

You're going too fast for me ; are you saying that 40TeV track are physical ?

yes. well, at least within uncertainties. What does the ptError() return for these tracks? If it comes out below 20% or so, I'd be motivated to follow up.

slava77 avatar Jun 21 '24 13:06 slava77

assign reconstruction

Dr15Jones avatar Jun 21 '24 15:06 Dr15Jones

New categories assigned: reconstruction

@jfernan2,@mandrenguyen you have been requested to review this Pull request/Issue and eventually sign? Thanks

cmsbuild avatar Jun 21 '24 15:06 cmsbuild

What does the ptError() return for these tracks? If it comes out below 20% or so, I'd be motivated to follow up.

actually, compare qoverpError() with charge()/p() to stay on a Gaussian side of interpretation of uncertainties. A track with abs(qoverpError()*p())<0.2 and pt of 40TeV would be worth debugging.

slava77 avatar Jun 21 '24 17:06 slava77

@cms-sw/xpog-l2 relevant L2 should close this and propagate to https://gitlab.cern.ch/cms-nanoAOD/xpog-coordination/-/issues/40

vlimant avatar May 27 '25 10:05 vlimant

assign x-pog

jfernan2 avatar Jul 15 '25 08:07 jfernan2

assign xpog

makortel avatar Jul 15 '25 13:07 makortel

New categories assigned: xpog

@ftorrresd,@hqucms you have been requested to review this Pull request/Issue and eventually sign? Thanks

cmsbuild avatar Jul 15 '25 13:07 cmsbuild