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Illegal discriminative geoblock of entire countries HAS BROKEN INSTALLATION AND UPDATES of many apps on Steam OS and other distos!

Open v00d00m4n opened this issue 4 months ago • 12 comments

This is insanity! CISCO alone can not deside who can have access to download openh264 and can not restrict mirroring of vital component like that! This is violation of human rights, this is violation of opensource principles, this is violation of justice and fair business practice! This is violation of trust!

Just a while ago everything worked fine, but today dozens of applications from Flathub can not be installed and updated "BECAUSE YOU ARE FROM WRONG COUNTRY, OPEN h264 is not OPEN for you, buddy"!

And this is not happens on device or software developed or made by CISCO, it happens with devices and software made by third parties who does not even rely on openh264 directly, but happen to rely of Freedesktop, GNOME and KDE that all has dependencies of openh264!

You cant freaking screw up whole chain of software of other organisations by making desicisions like this alone without asking anyone if they agree and if that would not hurt their business and trust in their organisations!

You scewed up everyone and everything, including Valve and SteamOS that got broken in certain countries, not because decisions of companies like Valve, but because of your desicision! You set them up and betrayed trust!

If i was in charge of any of those companies starting from Valve i would sue CISCO for millions of dollars and demand all the components to be set fully free, and also i would stop trusting CISCO and would spend money on developing more reliable and backwards-compatible alternative to Openh264!

Now lift the goeblock for all countries and never do this again, and let everyone mirror OpenH264 on other distos and repos before million dollars worth class action followed this dumb decision!

v00d00m4n avatar Aug 05 '25 19:08 v00d00m4n

Cisco is a corporation, they do what the want it's their project.

ROBERT-MCDOWELL avatar Aug 05 '25 20:08 ROBERT-MCDOWELL

Cisco is a corporation, they do what the want it's their project.

Access to information is a fundamental human right, closely linked to the right to freedom of expression. Its the right to seek, receive, and impart information, and is recognized as integral to a functioning democracy and the rule of law. This right allows individuals to make informed decisions, participate in public life, and hold governments accountable.

Universal Declaration of Human Rights: Article 19 of the UDHR recognizes the right to freedom of opinion and expression, which includes the freedom to "seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers".

Inter-American Commission on Human Rights (IACHR): The IACHR has emphasized the right of access to information as a fundamental right, stating that states have an obligation to guarantee its full exercise.

Blocking access to websites violates international human rights laws related to access to information and freedom of expression.

No corporation can do what they want is what they want is unlawful and violates human rights.

What CISCO did to Russians by blocking access is no different to what Nazy Germans did to Jews in 1930th before it all went too far in 1940th!

v00d00m4n avatar Aug 06 '25 01:08 v00d00m4n

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relativemodder avatar Aug 06 '25 12:08 relativemodder

Well, CISCO gave free rights even for binaries. But, possibly, they have rights to block access to theirs servers (I'm not a lawyer)... And I confirm, since 06.08.2025 in Belarus I'm unable to update openSUSE Tumbleweed because of forbidden access to https://ciscobinary.openh264.org/

igormironchik avatar Aug 07 '25 09:08 igormironchik

Well, another company decided to play politics. The same story happened a year ago with dockerhab. Dockerhab was unavailable for Russia and Belarus for several days. Do they really think that the war will stop without libopenh264?

quantumwall avatar Aug 10 '25 07:08 quantumwall

You don't have a human right to access someone else's server. The fact that it would be very inconvenient to set up your own server isn't a violation of your human rights.

It's also not illegal where the servers are operated which is ultimately the only thing that matters.

If you want to complain about the issue it would be more useful without fabricating imaginary crimes and human rights violations.

michaelmrose avatar Aug 13 '25 00:08 michaelmrose

yet another "open" source moment

cafeed28 avatar Aug 16 '25 16:08 cafeed28

They cry about human rights in Western countries, but will do nothing when their country commits genocide, crimes against humanity, and war crimes. FAFO

caballero77 avatar Aug 23 '25 14:08 caballero77

They cry about human rights in Western countries, but will do nothing when their country commits genocide, crimes against humanity, and war crimes. FAFO

Exactly! I'm almost Russian and confirm your words! I don't see in this issue any human right violations... Russian (almost everyone) don't know what human rights are even...

igormironchik avatar Aug 23 '25 14:08 igormironchik

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They cry about human rights in Western countries, but will do nothing when their country commits genocide, crimes against humanity, and war crimes. FAFO

Exactly! I'm almost Russian and confirm your words! I don't see in this issue any human right violations... Russian (almost everyone) don't know what human right are even...

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justnikocrypto87 avatar Aug 23 '25 15:08 justnikocrypto87

You yourself are aware that access has been blocked not only in Russia, but also in Ukraine and Iran.

Ataliabul avatar Oct 09 '25 06:10 Ataliabul

I'm also getting 403 and I'm from India.

LastLightSith avatar Oct 17 '25 20:10 LastLightSith

@LastLightSith, similarly, I'm blocked in ENG, as ichaoX/ext-textFragment/issues/24 demonstrates, ^1 whereas mastodon.social/@rokejulianlockhart/115508096149281983 corroborates the original complaint.

RokeJulianLockhart avatar Nov 07 '25 01:11 RokeJulianLockhart

I'm also getting 403 and I'm from India.

geoblocking can affect other countries, if for example some company in Iran stopped using certain Ip subnet, and Indian company bought this subnet latter on, there is a chance that even large company like cloudfront mess up, and don't unblock this subnet. Moreover, in real life sometimes subnets are traded or rented out legally and illegaly, without properly registering GEO changes

Cisco is a corporation, they do what the want it's their project.

Well, yes and No.

This situation undermines usefullness and reliability of flatpack as software distribution platform. Think of it. Any corporation, for whatever reason, can just turn off their private flathub, or make it inaccessible to groups of people.

Flatpack was supposed to simplify software distribution, not complicate it with politics

In my opinion, if this is allowed to continue the only thing it will lead to is irrepairable devision in opensource community, and formation of several politically alligned techno-hubs with closed off software infrastructures.

yuri-tech1 avatar Nov 10 '25 06:11 yuri-tech1

They most likely have not even noticed this issue. Chat, we might have to stop speaking and start acting.

gaussandhisgun avatar Nov 19 '25 14:11 gaussandhisgun

@gaussandhisgun Of coure, you country killed 20+ civilians, including 3 childrens, this morning in Ternopil. After that cisco should definitelly unblock ruzzia. You can try to protest agains it, of cource I'm talking about geoblock. Not about kiling civilians, for ruzzians it is not a problem.

caballero77 avatar Nov 19 '25 14:11 caballero77

@gaussandhisgun Of coure, you country killed 20+ civilians, including 3 childrens, this morning in Ternopil. After that cisco should definitelly unblock ruzzia. You can try to protest agains it, of cource I'm talking about geoblock. Not about kiling civilians, for ruzzians it is not a problem.

how many ukrainians have been killed since 2013 by the kiev gestapo only by the fact they had a russian accent?

ROBERT-MCDOWELL avatar Nov 19 '25 14:11 ROBERT-MCDOWELL

@gaussandhisgun Of coure, you country killed 20+ civilians, including 3 childrens, this morning in Ternopil. After that cisco should definitelly unblock ruzzia. You can try to protest agains it, of cource I'm talking about geoblock. Not about kiling civilians, for ruzzians it is not a problem.

how many ukrainians have been killed since 2013 by the kiev gestapo only by the fact they had a russian accent?

Go home Solovyov

caballero77 avatar Nov 19 '25 14:11 caballero77

would you like the contact of all the families who lost their loves since 2013? reason why Russia decided to defend the east ukrainians? would like the document of zelinksky and co who bought for $138,000,000 of luxurious properties in switzerland thanks to the western money? please just ask, I have them all and copies everywhere on the planet.

ROBERT-MCDOWELL avatar Nov 19 '25 14:11 ROBERT-MCDOWELL

Omg, only more propaganda. I wish ruzzian army will protect its own country same way as eastern Ukraine was protected by it. Have a bad evening and don't forget to pray in front of the putin icon

caballero77 avatar Nov 19 '25 15:11 caballero77

You yourself are aware that access has been blocked not only in Russia, but also in Ukraine and Iran.

Belarus too. Confirmed on several machines

casanovalx avatar Nov 22 '25 19:11 casanovalx