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Feedback to turn on the lights in the buttons on the APC mini midi controller
Hello. I use an APC mini midi controller and avoltes titanium ONE using MIDImonster.
Communication works fine for me, the only problem I have is that avolites doesn't send me feedback if the cue is active or not, so I can't turn on the lights on the buttons.
I've been trying to do feedback with the midimonster to turn on the lights in the APC mini midi controller for a while but I fail. I noticed on the internet that some did this using luas script. I don’t know exactly in which note I should write the commands and what the commands should look like. Could someone please help me and give me an example of the program?
Each key has a red, green and yellow light. I would like to know how to turn on each and how to make them flash if they are active. I am aware that Avolites titan one doesn't have feedback for cue whether it is active or not, so all this must be done manually in a script.
I am also interested in commands for the light to light only when the key is pressed. And commands for the light to light up when the key is pressed and turns off when the key is pressed again.
I want it to look something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uRpIvr2BQU&ab_channel=YLP (read description point 5.).
I also found this if anything helps you: https://www.bome.com/wp-content/uploads/cma_attachments/1494878547803_APC-Mini.png
Im asking for help. Thanks in advance.
Hey @dejvidg,
a little click on his channel returned this: Youtube-Video
I hope this answers your question. If not, please reopen this issue again ;)
Hello @Spacelord09
Thanks for the video and reply!
I tried this method and I did the same as in the clip but it doesn't work for me. I use notepad on windows 10.
Midimonster works for me normal in I get signal in avolites titanium one. But the lights in the keys don't turn on. Here in this link, I describe everything: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ZMAT4Ktqme07cZXKbkQit6JoEsB7Kpjm?usp=sharing
Maybe I made a mistake somewhere. Can you please help me?
Could I make my light in buttons light on when I press a button?
Could it be programmed so that the light in the button goes on when I press a key and goes out when I press a key again?
And so that the light only comes on when the button is pressed (flash button)?
Hello thanks for reply. I tried this too but it doesn't work. Without this code at least the commands work for me, but with this code, even that doesn't work. You can see the picture in the word document. So obviously I am missing something. I also send you the zip of my midimonster so please check if there is something wrong.
You can find pictures in the drive: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1icDy2t-pBER3NSgPBT86VpyeQRA62J2D?usp=sharing
V V sre., 10. avg. 2022 ob 02:29 je oseba kimwida @.***> napisala:
You missed step 1. Add step 1 codes to your "monster.cfg".
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Oh. I made this clip for just buttons lighting. I mean it is not for feedback. It's just something like skin. Fixed skin. I've used feedback similar one. It is not feedback because Titan doesn't support it. The way how to work is I programmed expected playbacks behaivor with lua. It is very long, complicated and even unstabled. Sometimes it lost feedback signals. So I am waiting Avolites midi feedback.
Your question 1) Yes, I am using it now. 2) Yes, I am using it now. 3) I think so. I don't use it.
First of all, make sure you install lua correctly and it works.
Ok. I added my feedback lua full code below link.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/15ULa-fjKIXJGF-hINHV30EtojhKYO56B/view?usp=sharing
Ok thanks for the reply.
Yes, I know that the lights do not come on because of the avolites titan program, because the program does not give feedback, so it is necessary to program it separately, as shown in the second video you sent.
So if I understand you correctly this method is not reliable? It is better if you get feedback and then turn on the light in buttons but here you can't get the feedback from program.
So right now I'm using midimonster in combination with titian one and akai apc mini which works fine for me. But I have a problem when I have already used a lot of keys, and when I have to press something quickly, I don't know exactly which key is active. Therefore, it would be easier for me if this button were lit, because then I can see exactly what is active and what is not.
Maybe you know a solution? I see you also sent me some code, where can I use it?
V V čet., 11. avg. 2022 ob 02:27 je oseba kimwida @.***> napisala:
--Top 2nd line --output("put_apc_color48",apc_b) --output("put_apc_color49",apc_b) --output("put_apc_color50",apc_b) output("put_apc_color51",apc_y) --output("put_apc_color52",apc_r) --output("put_apc_color53",apc_r) --output("put_apc_color54",apc_r) --output("put_apc_color55",apc_r) --output("put_apc_color83",apc_g_b) --Top 3rd line output("put_apc_color40",apc_g) output("put_apc_color41",apc_g) output("put_apc_color42",apc_g) output("put_apc_color43",apc_g) output("put_apc_color44",apc_y) output("put_apc_color45",apc_y) output("put_apc_color46",apc_y) output("put_apc_color47",apc_y) output("put_apc_color84",apc_g) --Top 4th line output("put_apc_color32",apc_y) output("put_apc_color33",apc_y) output("put_apc_color34",apc_y) output("put_apc_color35",apc_y) output("put_apc_color36",apc_r) output("put_apc_color37",apc_r) output("put_apc_color38",apc_r) output("put_apc_color39",apc_g) --output("put_apc_color85",apc_g) --Top 5th line output("put_apc_color24",apc_g) output("put_apc_color25",apc_g) output("put_apc_color26",apc_g) output("put_apc_color27",apc_g) output("put_apc_color28",apc_g) output("put_apc_color29",apc_y) output("put_apc_color30",apc_y) output("put_apc_color31",apc_r) --output("put_apc_color86",apc_g) --Top 6th line output("put_apc_color16",apc_r) output("put_apc_color17",apc_y) output("put_apc_color18",apc_y) output("put_apc_color19",apc_y) output("put_apc_color20",apc_g) output("put_apc_color21",apc_g) output("put_apc_color22",apc_g) output("put_apc_color23",apc_r) output("put_apc_color87",apc_b) --Top 7th line output("put_apc_color8",apc_r) output("put_apc_color9",apc_g) output("put_apc_color10",apc_g) output("put_apc_color11",apc_g) output("put_apc_color12",apc_y) output("put_apc_color13",apc_y) output("put_apc_color14",apc_y) output("put_apc_color15",apc_g) output("put_apc_color88",apc_b) --Top 8th line output("put_apc_color0",apc_r) output("put_apc_color1",apc_r) output("put_apc_color2",apc_r) output("put_apc_color3",apc_r) output("put_apc_color4",apc_r) output("put_apc_color5",apc_r) output("put_apc_color6",apc_b) output("put_apc_color7",apc_g) output("put_apc_color89",apc_g) --Bottom 9th line output("put_apc_color64",apc_b) output("put_apc_color65",apc_r) output("put_apc_color66",apc_r) output("put_apc_color67",apc_r) output("put_apc_color68",apc_r) output("put_apc_color69",apc_r) output("put_apc_color70",apc_b) --output("put_apc_color71",apc_r) --output("put_apc_color98",apc_r) variable_set()
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I also try this and the light are working fine but the problem is that I can't run this program and the midimonster at the same time so first I have to light up the buttons and then close midikey2key and then open the midimonster and then it is working ok but then the light is on until I plugged off the apc mini and the light in the button is always on because there is no more feedback for lights in buttons and they stayed od from the midi2key program so this is not the best solution.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Urg7TQwxBS8&ab_channel=DerAbt
V V čet., 11. avg. 2022 ob 23:44 je oseba Dejvid Gal @.***> napisala:
Ok thanks for the reply.
Yes, I know that the lights do not come on because of the avolites titan program, because the program does not give feedback, so it is necessary to program it separately, as shown in the second video you sent.
So if I understand you correctly this method is not reliable? It is better if you get feedback and then turn on the light in buttons but here you can't get the feedback from program.
So right now I'm using midimonster in combination with titian one and akai apc mini which works fine for me. But I have a problem when I have already used a lot of keys, and when I have to press something quickly, I don't know exactly which key is active. Therefore, it would be easier for me if this button were lit, because then I can see exactly what is active and what is not.
Maybe you know a solution? I see you also sent me some code, where can I use it?
V V čet., 11. avg. 2022 ob 02:27 je oseba kimwida < @.***> napisala:
--Top 2nd line --output("put_apc_color48",apc_b) --output("put_apc_color49",apc_b) --output("put_apc_color50",apc_b) output("put_apc_color51",apc_y) --output("put_apc_color52",apc_r) --output("put_apc_color53",apc_r) --output("put_apc_color54",apc_r) --output("put_apc_color55",apc_r) --output("put_apc_color83",apc_g_b) --Top 3rd line output("put_apc_color40",apc_g) output("put_apc_color41",apc_g) output("put_apc_color42",apc_g) output("put_apc_color43",apc_g) output("put_apc_color44",apc_y) output("put_apc_color45",apc_y) output("put_apc_color46",apc_y) output("put_apc_color47",apc_y) output("put_apc_color84",apc_g) --Top 4th line output("put_apc_color32",apc_y) output("put_apc_color33",apc_y) output("put_apc_color34",apc_y) output("put_apc_color35",apc_y) output("put_apc_color36",apc_r) output("put_apc_color37",apc_r) output("put_apc_color38",apc_r) output("put_apc_color39",apc_g) --output("put_apc_color85",apc_g) --Top 5th line output("put_apc_color24",apc_g) output("put_apc_color25",apc_g) output("put_apc_color26",apc_g) output("put_apc_color27",apc_g) output("put_apc_color28",apc_g) output("put_apc_color29",apc_y) output("put_apc_color30",apc_y) output("put_apc_color31",apc_r) --output("put_apc_color86",apc_g) --Top 6th line output("put_apc_color16",apc_r) output("put_apc_color17",apc_y) output("put_apc_color18",apc_y) output("put_apc_color19",apc_y) output("put_apc_color20",apc_g) output("put_apc_color21",apc_g) output("put_apc_color22",apc_g) output("put_apc_color23",apc_r) output("put_apc_color87",apc_b) --Top 7th line output("put_apc_color8",apc_r) output("put_apc_color9",apc_g) output("put_apc_color10",apc_g) output("put_apc_color11",apc_g) output("put_apc_color12",apc_y) output("put_apc_color13",apc_y) output("put_apc_color14",apc_y) output("put_apc_color15",apc_g) output("put_apc_color88",apc_b) --Top 8th line output("put_apc_color0",apc_r) output("put_apc_color1",apc_r) output("put_apc_color2",apc_r) output("put_apc_color3",apc_r) output("put_apc_color4",apc_r) output("put_apc_color5",apc_r) output("put_apc_color6",apc_b) output("put_apc_color7",apc_g) output("put_apc_color89",apc_g) --Bottom 9th line output("put_apc_color64",apc_b) output("put_apc_color65",apc_r) output("put_apc_color66",apc_r) output("put_apc_color67",apc_r) output("put_apc_color68",apc_r) output("put_apc_color69",apc_r) output("put_apc_color70",apc_b) --output("put_apc_color71",apc_r) --output("put_apc_color98",apc_r) variable_set()
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That's why I use lua backend. There's a lot of ways to light and feedback apcmini. midi-OX, grandma2 on PC, dot2, bome. But all of them can't be run with midimonster, because windows midi library or something can be used only one program. midikey2key is very good for setting apcmini but you can't use it with midimonster at this time. If midikey2key is upgraded to send osc, I think it would work. In midimonster, you delete winmidi and add osc backend and it's done!
Could you please explain one solution from start to finish because I don't know exactly what I need to change to make it work. I also found this on yt:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=josb529YlVU&ab_channel=YLP
It says in the coment:
Josue David Lopez Camargo Hello, your video is very interesting and I managed to compile in midimosnter, but I still do not understand how the midiox converts the signal into sACN, I am very interested to know more about the subject
YLP You can make your midi controller's buttons light with using sysEX of MIDI-OX. It doesn't mean feedback but just static color. It's better than nothing. And the converting is done by midiMonster. You have to edit monster.cfg.
Which of these solutions do you think is the simplest? Please, if you present one solution to me from start to finish, I will do exactly the same as you, so that everything will work in the end.
You can also send me the code. Thank you.
V V pet., 12. avg. 2022 ob 03:31 je oseba kimwida @.***> napisala:
That's why I use lua backend. There's a lot of ways to light and feedback apcmini. midi-OX, grandma2 on PC, dot2, bome. But all of them can't be run with midimonster, because windows midi library or something can be used only one program. midikey2key is very good for setting apcmini but you can't use it with midimonster at this time. If midikey2key is upgraded to send osc, I think it would work. In midimonster, you delete winmidi and add osc backend and it's done!
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I used MIDI-OX way years ago, I didn't use it for a long time and I don't have source. But as I said before, it can't be used with midimonster at once either if midimonster use midi backend. So I lunch MIDI-OX, light buttons, terminate MIDI-OX and run midimonster. It needed a lot of steps, so I automated it using autohotkey. Any it is similar way that you use MidiKey2Key and midimonster. I know it is not best way, but at least it light buttons and you can use midi controller with Titan One for free. If you want feedback similar one, study midimonster lua codes or wait some time until another solutions come.
Today, I researched my lost feedback signal things in my lua code and midimonster. I thought that there was some lag between lua and midimonster for lost signal. But it is not!!! I found that lua and midimonster react at real time perfectly. It's so great!!! The lost feedback signal is because Avolites Titan can't support feedbacks. In detail, when I pushed multiple playbacks at once and I hit a fading playback gain, the problem occured. It does not have something to do with midimonster and lua. It's just because I couldn't implement the situation. That's all. I wrote it for someone who could misunderstand lua and midimonster.