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Help with the rendering MIWG models
What should we do?
Each year Camunda takes part is the Model Interchange Working Group presentation where members of the OMG all hang out and prove that tools which claim to the BPMN 2.0 compliment are in fact compliment. This involves being able to render the same model in the same way for each tools. We need help ensuring that the model correctly renders in Camunda's modeler and a long or short term fix in place if things don't look as they should
Why should we do it?
It's important that Camunda is seen to be part of the greater BPMN tooling community and by actively demonstrating the capabilities we can showcase our tooling while also learning about how we compare to other tools.
Resources
- BPMN diagram:
process-collaboration.bpmn
This is what we should / could support for June 2021: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1LkaWLul2NxcXbRkeF_Nm7xkFUhwNBusi
- DMN works
- BPMN so far does not work
The BPMN, we would - per design - not like to support. (also see this discussion)
But what we potentially could do, is to provide an "compatability plugin"
Is the diagram public? If so, could we attach it to this issue as a test case?
The diagram is not pubic - but I've added it to the Google Drive link that Max left in his comment. So we can use it internally.
Thanks for the info. Any chance to get hold on the most simple version of that diagram, available for public viewing?
There is no problem if the model is in a public GitHub repo, e.g. as a test case or as part of this issue discussion. After the demo, it will become a test case of the BPMN MIWG Test Suite.
The particular style of modeling stems from Bruce Silver's BPMN books and might therefore be commonly used by his readers and training participants especially in North America.
Thanks for the clarification. I've attached it to the BPMN diagram being discussed.
The i18n extension that has been specified by the BPMN MIWG is also a part of this year's test: https://github.com/bpmn-miwg/bpmn-i18n
Just this week I had another customer asking for it. Is there any way we can think of supporting that, e.g. in a modeler plugin?
Not supported out of the box, but may be possible to support via a plug-in, yes.
A new issue has been discovered during today's demo dry run: https://github.com/camunda/camunda-modeler/issues/2214 (this is in the context of the BPMN I18n specification.
This year's MIWG demo will again use the BPMN in Color Specification: https://github.com/bpmn-miwg/bpmn-in-color Is there any way we can think of supporting that, e.g. in a modeler plugin?
BPMN in Color will be supported via https://github.com/bpmn-io/bpmn-js/pull/1453
I have a "minimum viable product' plugin for doing Model I18N that works, but ... it would be much better if we included the <1i8n:translations> extension in the underlying moddle out of the box.
At the moment we don't plan to support the bpmn:i18n extension out of the box. It is a classic vendor extension.
I'm not sure what keeps you from using it at this stage?
I believe it's a BPMN standard extension now, not a vendor extension. What so far keeps me from using it is that it simply doesn't work to add it as an extension later.
I believe it's a BPMN standard extension now, not a vendor extension. What so far keeps me from using it is that it simply doesn't work to add it as an extension later.
If it is broken, could you please create an issue for that? That is something we should fix then.
I assume you are referring to registerBpmnJSModdleExtension?
What we can do is to look into the i18n topic in a time-boxed manner ourselves.
Until then, please provide clearly reproducible bug reports for us that allow us to understand your context and problem. What usually does not work is jumping onto potential solutions without us (the core modeling team) understanding the underlying issue.