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Refilling a Uprint ?

Open ridingg opened this issue 7 years ago • 33 comments

Hi, Just wondering if anyone can help me.... I'm currently trying to refill my Uprint support chip using the " bvanheu's Stratasys cartridge EEPROM generator " but each time i create a new "refill.bin " file as showing below, and upload it to the chip, i notice that the UID doesn't change and i get an " S1 Invalid error " displayed on the printer.

Here is the original UID for the support: b3d3bc06d014106d

And here is the command I've used to create the new bin file:

stratasys-cli.py eeprom --machine-type uprint --eeprom-uid 6d1014d006bcd3b3 --serial-number 111222333.0 --material-name ABS_S --manufacturing-lot 7567 --manufacturing-date "2016-01-01 01:01:01" --use-date "2016-01-01 01:01:01" --initial-material 40.0 --current-material 40.0 --key- fragment 55aa55c395bf4ebe --version 1 --signature NOTSTRATA -o refill.bin

Please see attached image which shows the original support UID and code for its remaining 4% support, followed by the new code from the refill.bin file.... both shows the same UID.

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ridingg avatar May 12 '17 12:05 ridingg

The EEPROM UID is read-only - it's actually lasered onto the EEPROM die at the factory. You only need to change the serial number when generating a new EEPROM image to avoid having to clear out the system.dat file(s).

HaveBlueXST avatar May 12 '17 13:05 HaveBlueXST

Im gettings an " S1 carrier Invaild " after copying the new code to the chip, but if i copy the original 4% code back it works again with out any errors. any idea how to fix this ? 18426063_10154341340905706_1446424523_n

ridingg avatar May 12 '17 17:05 ridingg

I recommend changing only the bare minimum when writing new data to the EEPROM - I'm not sure if using a different signature could be interfering.

HaveBlueXST avatar May 12 '17 17:05 HaveBlueXST

Tbh im pretty new to this.... All i changed was Rev the UID and entered ABS_S for material as shown above in the earlier screenshot. I really dont know what else to do

ridingg avatar May 12 '17 17:05 ridingg

Have you used akb's instructions from this thread? https://www.3dprintforums.com/showthread.php/3153-How2-Refill-the-EEPROM-of-the-HP-DesignJet-3D-aka-uPrint

HaveBlueXST avatar May 12 '17 18:05 HaveBlueXST

Yea I've looked at that one, also the Uprint v2 but still getting the invalid carrier error. We can copy the model code to the chip and it works fine as a model material but for some reason, the support has this error.

ridingg avatar May 12 '17 19:05 ridingg

Can you post the original support EEPROM dump?

HaveBlueXST avatar May 13 '17 19:05 HaveBlueXST

It has 4% of support left on it :-)

Support Carrier ID : b3 d3 bc 06 d0 14 10 6d

a2 3f 83 cd 6e 36 f8 a3 c3 66 30 8a 89 89 fb d6 dc 59 e0 ad a1 9e 6f 0c cf f3 20 1a 0e 93 7e b1 fc e3 d4 9e 0d 00 8b 93 7e ad fa 08 27 14 1d 35 7e ad fa 08 27 14 1d 35 49 27 61 55 99 0f b6 24 3d 97 00 00 00 00 c0 17 55 aa 55 13 a2 9a 54 be fb e8 00 00 00 00 00 00 91 79 f0 75 bf 36 3b 60 6f 9e 07 78 00 00 00 00 53 54 52 41 54 41 53 59 53 f9 10 3c 5a f5 d3 fc 78 1e 5c 76 8d c0 23 85

dump

ridingg avatar May 14 '17 07:05 ridingg

Hey ridingg, AFAIK you need to choose ABS_SS instead of ABS_S to run with the uPrint.

regards 256FF aka akb ;-)

256FF avatar May 16 '17 08:05 256FF

And voila, after decrypting your 4% dump:

abs_ss

256FF avatar May 16 '17 10:05 256FF

Thanks 256FF, I will give this a try, and let you know if it works :-) ..... Also is there any way of changing the temperature of a Uprint to be able to use other materials?

ridingg avatar May 16 '17 10:05 ridingg

I "know" two ways to change the tip-temp:

  1. maracaEx maraca

  2. System file I don't know where exactly

256FF avatar May 16 '17 11:05 256FF

Yea i've try changing the temp using MaracaEX, But i get an error just before its about to print then reboots itself. img_4817

ridingg avatar May 16 '17 11:05 ridingg

This Code means: "Abort : Head temperature setpoint too low."

Verify the head temperature set point using CatalystEX • The model must be above 240 degrees. • The support must be above 240 degrees.

256FF avatar May 26 '17 14:05 256FF

Hi 256FF

Any idea why im getting this error when i select ABS_SS to create a support eeprom? new

ridingg avatar May 27 '17 19:05 ridingg

If you use the newest code you must use P400SR instead of ABS_SS.

256FF avatar May 27 '17 20:05 256FF

Thanks so much 256FF for all your help...its all working now :-)

ridingg avatar May 27 '17 20:05 ridingg

Hey 256FF, is there a way of increasing the extrusion rate for slightly thinner filaments which are not quite 1.75mm but more 1.74 / 3 you know of ?

ridingg avatar May 30 '17 14:05 ridingg

Hi ridingg, sorry, I don't know an option to change the extrusion rate. But you can try to decrease the distance in insight, also negative values are possible. Try start with -0.0254

insight

256FF avatar Jun 01 '17 09:06 256FF

Thanks, I will give it a try :-)

I've been trying to use HIPS filament as a support material, which works great, but the hips keep's coming away from the build surface during the print. So I thought I would try changing the first layer of support to model material using the follow changes in the " mvcplr2.cfg" in the hana folder

FirstVmax=2.0; in/sec FirstVbb=1.5; in/sec FirstVmin=1.1; in/sec FirstBetaVmin=52; degrees FirstBetaVbb=35; degrees FirstBetaLen=0.1; in FirstTempOffset=100; 1/10 C FirstMaterial=MODEL; FirstMainFlowAdj=100,1600000,1.75,0;

But for some reason, it still prints the first layer using the support material and not the model material. Is there anything else I need to change to get this to work that you know of?

ridingg avatar Jun 01 '17 09:06 ridingg

Does it warp? You can try to increase the base oversize oder base hight to avoid the warping. base base2

256FF avatar Jun 01 '17 09:06 256FF

the hips doesn't stick well to the build platform, so i was trying to print the first layer of the support in model material, like in BST

ridingg avatar Jun 01 '17 09:06 ridingg

ah, ok. Did you try to use a glue stick to prepare the base plate? Maybe this can help.

256FF avatar Jun 01 '17 09:06 256FF

can anyone point me to the instructions for writing to a uprint chip via the diag port. most of the links I have found are dead ends at this point.

I am trying to figure out if it is possible to make new chips from scratch. I have done this for fortus/dimension chips

Thank You Calvin

calvindomenico avatar Dec 06 '17 07:12 calvindomenico

Do you have send me an PM in 3dprintforums.com? If yes, you alreade have it :-)

256FF avatar Dec 06 '17 10:12 256FF

Hello Gary Ridingg, Did you found the solution for changing the Firstmaterial from support to Modell? I want same on my dimension. Please tell me the solution if you found. Thank you!

Belencsakl avatar Feb 15 '18 17:02 Belencsakl

Hi Belencsaki, You can change the way the support is placed using the Insight software under "support settings" Hope this helps :-) Gary

ridingg avatar Feb 15 '18 17:02 ridingg

Hello Gary, thanks for your very fast answer. Ah, yes, I have other problem:( I want print without any support material in my SST. I tried in the insight. I made the CMB file without support. I want print the item without support, because not necessary for my parts. But If Build the CMB, my Printer ( Dimension SST768) always make the first layer from support. I changed in the CFG file the " FirstMaterial=MODEL; " but doesn't work:( But maybe this is only change the materials sequence:( Laszlo

Belencsakl avatar Feb 15 '18 19:02 Belencsakl

Hi Belencsald

I have found a way to print a layer of the model onto the build surface before printing the support, which will give the print a very strong layer to stop models from warping.

If you load your model up in the " Insight " software, then under the " Modelers / Setup " tab, you will need to change " Invert build materials " option to "Yes " this will swop the model material and support materials around. You will then have to unload both model and support material from your material, and load your support material, in the model bay, and model material in the support bay.

Once you have sliced your model and sent it to the printer to print, you will notice that it will now print the first layer in Model material from the support side of the print head, followed by the support material from the model side of the print head.

This has worked well for me, without having to ssh and change any settings on the machine.

Let me know how this goes for you and let me know your outcome. Best wishes Gary. R

ridingg avatar Mar 14 '18 12:03 ridingg

Re: [bvanheu/stratatools] Refilling a Uprint ? (#48)

Hello Gary,

Many thanks for your respond. I'll try tomorrow. I'm very excited:)

I found also 1 "poor" solution:

1, I use a modified plastic blase plate with steel plate + magnet rubber sheet for the calibration before start the print. I attached a pictures 2, I slice the model in insight with 2 layer base from support material 3, a push pause in inside to 3. layer.  ( will stop the print before start the 3. layer from model material) 4, I removed the "support material from the head 5, Start the printing the first 2 layer in to AIR 6, Printer paused 7, I push another magnet sheet with "Buildtak". Buildtak heigt is about 0.25mm so to layer hight if I print with 0.127mm 8, And resume the printing.

Because the rubber magnet sheet is flexible. Remove the parts is very easy.

But your solution looks better.

I'll let you know. Regards Laszlo from Hungary img_20180314_143754 img_20180314_143736 img_20180314_143610

Belencsakl avatar Mar 14 '18 13:03 Belencsakl

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ridingg avatar Mar 14 '18 15:03 ridingg

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ridingg avatar Mar 14 '18 16:03 ridingg

Would anyone be able to send me model and support chips? Mine got locked unfortunately... I would greatly appreciate it! Thank you

TheGuardDawg avatar Mar 23 '20 01:03 TheGuardDawg