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Game unusable since version 8

Open ghost opened this issue 10 months ago • 12 comments

Hello, I have been a fervent admirer of Bruno's work for several years, because the application has infinite potential and has been very useful to me, on the other hand there is a serious conflict since version 8 while 7.0 worked quite well with my game, although it was seriously lacking in FPS.

I only played Magic gathering 2014 gold edition on version 7.0, but after 8 and 9 became unusable, I tried in vain to modify all possible parameters, the different box64, the windows version, the ram, the graphics card, the graphics engine, the version of the engines, ... strictly no parameter wants to run the game and strangely testdirect3D does not work with adreno, it only works with virgl and vortek. But the game still doesn't launch or the game launches but the screen remains black :( It also launches with vortek, however the sound crackles and cuts out a lot and all the 3D graphics renderings of the game are unreadable and melted .... :(

I beg you to help me find an alternative to make it work again on the latest winlator version because there are more FPS on this version or hoping that Bruno sees this message? Oo

One last thing that completely ruins my experience of the application is that winlator does not have access to my SD card, which prevents me from using windows applications directly with the thousands of files on my 1TB card! Unfortunately windows uses applications that android does not use, so it's been years since I can no longer have absolute control over my card since I no longer have a PC.

My mobile: Aquos sense8 Android 14

ghost avatar Feb 17 '25 19:02 ghost

Hello there, when you tested Magic Gathering 2014 on Winlator 7.0 did you test with VirGL?

brunodev85 avatar Feb 18 '25 12:02 brunodev85

I no longer remember, I just tested again with all the versions and none works even 7.0 on my aquos sense8. I do not understand how I had managed to make it work before ... None of the graphic engines allow you to launch the application. Anyway, you can't solve the conflict for this phone? oO

The other games launch very well, on the other hand the FPS are catastrophic, I do not even reach 30 FPS, it runs between 20 and 29 fps and neither vortek nor turnip adreno work, the games only work with the graphics engine base VIRGL !

ghost avatar Feb 18 '25 14:02 ghost

@Yakaridelinfini @brunodev85 unfortunatly, since version 8 Bruno decided to ditch Box86 support for some reason and replace it with horrible experimental WOW64 from wine team. i have the same problem. most of my old 32 bit games run with 5-6 fps or won't run at all. i never had any problem with version 7 or older versions. i can understand the need for transition to 64 bit only enviroments, but at least he could keep the OPTION to use box86 for people like me who only use Winlator for old 32 bit games. i really hope he changes his mind and bring Box86 back in the next version.

Re4mer avatar Feb 18 '25 22:02 Re4mer

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Brunodev85, I just got more details on the conflict.

  • The game does not launch with any graphics engine EXCEPT WINED3D
  • No BOX86 AND 64 mode works, EXCEPT COMPATIBILITY
  • Every time the game launches, it crashes. At the time of the crash, an error message arrives: File dump(....).bmp failed The message only appears with turnip adreno, it's ridiculous since I have an adreno
  • And Error message does not appear in VIRGL mode, game crashes winlator and exits desktop

ghost avatar Feb 19 '25 19:02 ghost

I just tried with several games, the other games launch without problem, but only with VIRGL. But strictly none of them work, they all have technical problems and graphic bugs, some the mouse pointer never appears, others the mouse pointer remains frozen and others it is the 3D elements that are frozen ! The games are impossible gaming unuse

ghost avatar Feb 24 '25 14:02 ghost

I have similar issiue with 32 bit games, always near 2-5 fps(having any animation play out is death sentence for fps).

64 bit games work fine(installed some to check out if they work) so i would love option to create 32 bit prefix for such cases.

CloneClown avatar Feb 26 '25 12:02 CloneClown

I have similar issiue with 32 bit games, always near 2-5 fps(having any animation play out is death sentence for fps).

64 bit games work fine(installed some to check out if they work) so i would love option to create 32 bit prefix for such cases.

I recommend to put MESA_EXTENDION_MAX_YEAR 2003 and set renderer to virgl and the opengl version to 2.0 and using intermediate for box64 preset. Before change these setting my fps is around 1 or 2 but now it's 16 to 25. I played scp containment breach with it it's a old and and 32 bit try these setting with your old games I think it's not bad idea to try it

karamelium avatar Feb 26 '25 14:02 karamelium

I have similar issiue with 32 bit games, always near 2-5 fps(having any animation play out is death sentence for fps). 64 bit games work fine(installed some to check out if they work) so i would love option to create 32 bit prefix for such cases.

I recommend to put MESA_EXTENDION_MAX_YEAR 2003 and set renderer to virgl and the opengl version to 2.0 and using intermediate for box64 preset. Before change these setting my fps is around 1 or 2 but now it's 16 to 25. I played scp containment breach with it it's a old and and 32 bit try these setting with your old games I think it's not bad idea to try it

i ve tried that but didnt change much, on main menu i have ~20fps and ingame 1-3 fps.

CloneClown avatar Feb 26 '25 16:02 CloneClown

I have already tested ALL possible settings for my part, those you are talking about too.

brunodev85 : I wrote you two previous messages with more details on my problems. And last precision, I go up to 250 FPS in direct3D test with VIRGL or VORTEK, but I confirm that strictly no game works...

ghost avatar Feb 26 '25 18:02 ghost

I retract the compliments I gave Bruno; he's given absolutely no support. He's completely indifferent and doesn't even try to give me the slightest advice. It's truly ridiculous!

Even after upgrading to a more powerful and modern phone, absolutely nothing has changed. No game detects my graphics card, and no game is playable, regardless of the graphics engine!

And to think I created a GitHub account simply to interact with others in a friendly manner!

ghost avatar Mar 13 '25 11:03 ghost

what games are you trying to run

Warlord19winter avatar May 18 '25 20:05 Warlord19winter

these games i got working skyrim ae oblivion need for speed rivals amercian truck sim factorio latest version starbound lethal company crysis 1, and 2 far cry 2 fancy pants super grany

Warlord19winter avatar May 18 '25 20:05 Warlord19winter