Brennan Young

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Good to see some discussion! And thanks for the excellent css-tricks link. It touches on various topics I think are under-explored. I'd be happy to see this issue closed and...

OK I just committed a stub for CSS 2.1 Aural. I left all the default versions in, but changed the support flag to "n". AFAICT this is correct, although we...

@frob as per https://github.com/Fyrd/caniuse/pull/4263#issuecomment-390559022 So, now the 'stub' [appears as a search result](https://caniuse.com/#search=aural), rather than a full entry. This is quite suitable. When we get the CSS 3 Speech data...

Try this with a screen reader. Notice the `"graphics-document"` and `"graphics-object"` roles, the `tabindex `attribute, and the use of `aria-labelledby` and `aria-describedby`. Still some room for improvement - ideally the...

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> Whether a list is sorted or unsorted is something a sighted user can only tell from the list characters, i.e. a sighted user cannot distinguish between ol and ul...

Just noticed in the chat log above: > could there be a possibility of having a single attribute that applies to multiple roles that would give this more specific descriptive...

Perhaps, instead of `aria-listtype`, we could adopt `aria-sort` for this purpose. It already exists, and **already expresses order**. "sort" (as a noun) is also a synonym for "type". For this...

I'm still seeing this issue on (for example) the w3c example [here](https://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-practices-1.1/examples/menu-button/menu-button-actions-active-descendant.html)